TheSlappKake: Sorry for the slow response. I assume you are talking about someone trying to cause you to lose by decking when you have drawn your deck and have no cards in library, but are discarding Kozilek to loop something like Dark Ritual. Unless you are very unlucky (Kozilek is the last or second to last card in the deck when doing the initial loop), this is the only time it would be detrimental to draw additional cards. The approach you use depends on how many cards they are trying to make you draw. If it is only a single card, you can often just cast Noxious Revival on something to have a card to draw. If you don't have Noxious Revival or need a second card you can potentially discard Riftsweeper and Necromancy it into play (assuming you have a card exiled to put back into your library). Finally, if you need any more than two cards (or two cards for less mana), the solution is to use your other shuffler effect, Gaea's Blessing to save the day. You can discard it, cast Noxious Revival on it to put it back into your library and then Entomb it to get the shuffle trigger. You can at any point before that shuffle trigger resolves discard as many (nonland) cards as you need to draw so you don't lose. Then resolve the draws and keep comboing.

Hi! Now can the sun Sunscorched Desert can be used to combo kill someone right?http://tappedout.net/subscriptions/subscribe/44/7666544/?return_url=/mtg-decks/just-froggin-around-the-gitrog-monster-primer/

Gede69: Yes, Sunscorched desert can replace Rath's Edge if you like. I favor Rath's Edge because it can occasionally remove problem creatures like Notion Thief. It definitely makes the combo simpler and potentially allows you to cut often dead cards like Necromancy and Dryad Arbor, though if you want to go down that route, I recommend looking at my latest list here git -rm.

Hi! Fairly new Gitrog pilot here, and I've run into an issue with the Crop Rotation on Gaea's Cradle loop. You discard shuffle effect, cast Crop Rotation, etc. But once you get to step 6, the stack should be empty. There are no draw triggers left on the stack to draw the shuffle effect, thus killing the loop. Unless I'm missing something, you get only 1 draw trigger from the Crop Rotation, and you've already resolved that draw in step 3. Is there some trick with Dakmor Salvage to try and reset the Kozi-Land state? Or do you discard any land, resolve the draw, use Dakmor Dredge to mill shuffle effect, and stack enough draw triggers to draw the discarded land, Crop Rotation, and shuffle effect?

Choirboy2020: Thanks for your interest in my list. If you look closer at the starting state for the Crop Rotation loops you will see we start with "infinite" draw triggers on the stack.

Finaly picked up a Chains of Mephistopheles! Besides a niche draw limitation for our opponents, especially when dealing with cantrips, are there any other fun, and or evil, things to do with chains? I have been using my own removal to get rid of it b4 going off, is there a way to go off with the effect still in play? Love the list btw. All in on Frog!

Fvknaryte: Awesome, congrats! Chains is great for a lot of things. It really kills decks that rely on wheels to refill their hands and midrange control decks like TnT to help slow down their draw engines. Most importantly, you absolutely can combo through Chains. I haven't gotten around to writing the guide for Chains yet, but the people in the frog discord have discussed it many times. Come chat with people and they would be happy to explain it. https://discord.gg/McRHQ3m

Quick question- Why bother with the creature and culling the weak in the Lotus Petal loop? Doesn't Lotus Petal by itself recur to create infinite mana of both colors? (With Emergence Zone nowadays it's even instant speed)