I like your build. I only advise you to fix your Manabase and cut the Chromatic Lantern. In my eyes it's a Darksteel Ingot without the indestructible and noone would play such a card.

A friend of mine also plays such a Deck, but he plays it more disruptive with cards like Aven Mindcensor and Mwonvuli Acid-Moss. We play mostly pentagramm so he only has two opponents and two "friends".

I like Oracle of Mul Daya so I also play Courser of Kruphix very often. He is very strong with library manipulation like Sensei's Divining Top. (with Blue even stronger, because you also have Brainstorm and Ponder)

Mr_M03: I'm gald you like the build :D

The only thing the deck needs are the remaining fetches in terms of manabase, and the only reason I don't currently have them is due to cost.

As for Chromatic Lantern, it is actualyl very powerful here. I run quite a high number of land that tap for colourless mana and not only does it fix them, but it fixes fetch lands as well as pain lands like Ancient Tomb. The fact that it actually ramps and is one of the few artifact ramp pieces I run makes it very valuable to the deck.

Courser of Kruphix is definately good, but doesn't actually provide any ramp. What it provides is conditional card draw. While this effect is nice, the guaranteed ramp provided by lantern is juts outright better. Not to mention there is a higher chance of Courser being removed than Lantern.

Since you are so fond of Mirrari's Wake why not try Zendikar Resurgent I have been playing it in several green ramp shells and it is extraordinarily powerful, especially given the amounts of creatures in the deck.

It's also cool to see this deck, because I have Saffi combos in my Karador deck, so it's nice to see how she functions as the 1 rather than a 99.

MirranTitan: cheers for the feedback. I actually took Mirari's Wake out of the deck a little while ago. I found it a bit slow for how high a priority target it is. I have been meaning to update the primer for a while (it's mostly done) but I have been having trouble finding the time recently.

Zendikar Resurgent is a very cool card. I like the fact that it provides card advantage. The problem I have with it for this deck though is just that it costs 7 mana. The other benefit that Mirari's Wake gave me over Resugent was the +1/+1 which is super relevant when most of your weenies are facing down an Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite.

It's definately not budget, but Gaea's Cradle basically acts as a fill in Mirari's Wake / Zendikar Resurgent these days. Typically it will tap for 3-4 which is more than enough to give me an edge.

As for Saffi as your commander, she is a lot of fun. There are defiantely times I miss having access to black, but on the whole I really enjoy playing her as she is a much more uncommon commander to see.

Awesome deck!

Thank ye muchly. I'm glad you like the deck.

what synergies does Sensei's Divining Top have in this deck?

How about synergizing with being an EDH card-draw staple?

I see it as that in most decks, but this one seems a little iffy for it, i want to see if im missing something .

KillKid20095: Sensei's Divining Top is one of those cards that if you have one, it's good in any deck. The ability to filter your draw is very powerful, increasing the chances of drawing into a relevant card.

On top of that, it has some good synery with cards like Oracle of Mul Daya, Nissa, Sage Animist  ^Flip, Selvala, Explorer Returned to name a few.

Ahh i see, thank you i was wondering how you would capitalize after the scry, thats actually really cool.

All good. Oracle of Mul Daya is definitely one of the more potent synergies, especially if you can set her up so that just before your draw step, the top of your library goes non-land, land, land.

The other thing worth mentioning is that the instant speed card draw is super powerful. Short of something like a Krosan Grip, top is very hard to kill. There have been times hwere I have specifically left a removal spell on the top of my library (even with an empty hand) just to mentally throw off other players. it also give the benefit of having access to cards from Noxious Revival or Enlightened Tutor then and there.

Thank you for the insight im thinking about building this deck, yours is super cool btw.

KillKid20095: Thanks, I'm glad you like it. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. And if you do put the deck together, let me know. I'd be interested to see your spin on it.

K :)

Someone recently recommended Scroll Rack for my Ghave deck. Interacts nicely with fetches. Could be something to look into if you're looking for a form of card advantage.

It also has great interaction with Land Tax, but really neither card is great in GW.

vault: My biggest issue with Scroll Rack is that it doesn't provide actual advantage. I mean, it's great wit ha full clutch of cards, but when I'm top decking it makes me a sad panda.

NarejED: Whoo, EDH Parfait! but yeah, pretty much. The one exception with Scroll Rack would be Captain Sisay, where rack is actually pretty decent.

I think you run a sufficent number of creatures to try Glare of Subdual, it give you a lot of time against the most fattas opponent's creatures and I see you already have Nim Deathmantle (I love that one), have you tried Evolutionary Leap? I don't know but 37 lands seem to be excessive, maybe one less to put Earthcraft? +1 for me!!

Rack clashes too heavily with the stax package for Sisay to want it. Between Null Rod, Stony Silence, Kataki, and six different taxers that hit it directly, it's not as desirable.

DVLuca: Glare of Subdual is cute, but a really underwhelming card. Tapping down creatures is only good against aggro decks and even then you have to know they're gong to attack you. Id much rather run proper, dead is dead removal.

Evolutionary Leap is ok, but I don't like random aspect to it. Coupled with the fact that it's only to hand, it just feels to miss and not enough hit.

Personally, I dont like running less than about 36 lands in a deck (and I know some people have differing opinions about this). I feel that it gets too inconsistent below that point. While I could go down one land, I dont like treating Gaea's Cradle as a guaranteed mana source. I've thought about Earthcraft before fir the deck, but ended up deciding that it didn't bring enough on its own.

But thankyou for the feedback :D

NarejED: This is true if you're running a stax Sisay build. But in an aggro combo build, rack can be very solid. And the build overall is actually really good if built correctly.

From the response on Glare of Subdual I understabd that you play multyplayer, and yes you have a point in this. But if you want to play Scroll Rack (an excellent card) think that Evolutionary Leap can remove the cards you dont want from the hand and put them away in the bottom and find a lot of new cards on the top

DVLuca: While Scroll Rack is nice, I doubt it will be the card I choose to run as it doesn't actually generate card advantage by itself. As for Evolutionary Leap, while the card is interesting I don't like the idea of having to trade my board state for card advantage. Especially when I could run something like Duskwatch Recruiter  ^Flip who has the potential to generate more advantage without having to sac my board. The other thing is that with Leap being an enchantment, I basically have to draw into it.

DiamondFlavor: So I ended up following your advice about Stoneforge Mystic and added one to the deck. It seems to go pretty well. I also stuck in Mortarpod. While it's a sorcery speed combo outlet, I ilke the idea of having a backup to Blasting Station.

@enpc would you mind summarizing the conversation on Pattern of Rebirth + Boonweaver Giant (+Altar of Dementia) from when / if it was discussed here?