VampiricTooter says... #2
Guardian Project Llanowar Visionary Luminous Broodmoth Beast Whisperer Nylea, Keen-Eyed Tireless Tracker Knight of Autumn Nyxbloom Ancient Archetype of Endurance Fleetfoot Panther Lifecrafter's Bestiary Cloudstone Curio Garruk's Uprising Primeval Bounty* Beastmaster Ascension
August 18, 2020 11:34 a.m.
VampiricTooter says... #3
I see you already have some of the cards I suggested but I strongly recommend evaluating the list and finding places for at least a few of those gems. Just built a Karametra deck for my girlfriend and I spent a lot of time revising it from about 200 cards down to a final 63. I would also suggest avoiding too many nonbasics.
August 18, 2020 11:41 a.m.
VampiricTooter says... #4
Also these are totally cards to consider
Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma Wayward Swordtooth Runic Armasaur
August 18, 2020 12:09 p.m.
TheHelvault says... #5
VampiricTooter thank you for the suggestions, I'll have to play test some of them. Things like Llanowar Elves and Fyndhorn Elves aren't exactly necessary, ramp is good but in this deck you don't want to have too much, because Karametra is the ramp. I especially like Regal Behemoth. Thanks for the suggestions!
August 18, 2020 2:11 p.m.
VampiricTooter says... #6
I find that the little ramp creatures are pretty essential in my build. They get the commander out quickly and don’t cause you to miss out on land drops as much as the traditional land tutors do. Once Karametra is on the field they still hit its trigger and become actual threats once they get pumped by the various ++ effects in the deck. I think I play 12-14 mana dorks and it gives me a lot of cheap ways to trigger the plethora of cast and etb effects. Makes for a potently consistent build full of spicy synergy. But to each their own. I think of it as a creaturefall deck as much as a landfall build.
August 18, 2020 3:29 p.m.
VampiricTooter says... #7
Of the cards I suggested, my favourites are:
Beast Whisperer
Guardian Project
Fleetfoot Panther
Nyxbloom Ancient
Cloudstone Curio
The seem to be consistently powerful here and the deck does silly things when these cards get moving. Somehow I missed Stonecloaker in my build! That needs to be remedied!
August 18, 2020 3:55 p.m.
liquid_water says... #8
Wouldn't Elemental Bond and/or Elvish Visionary just cause you to lose the game if you hit them with Primal Surge?
April 7, 2021 2:43 p.m.
liquid_water says... #9
Ah, nvmd, I see Abundance could protect the deck out. Still, might be risky if Abundance was destroyed earlier in the game.
April 7, 2021 2:46 p.m.
TheHelvault says... #10
liquid_water the trick is that with Primal Surge I can choose to stop, so I do if what I'm going to play next would make me lose. However, I am actively looking for replacements for Elemental Bond, preferably the same effect on a May ability. Oftentimes I can just Primal Surge, build a board, find Akroma's Memorial and Craterhoof then win, maybe flicker Craterhoof a couple times too with Felidar Guardian and Restoration Angel
April 8, 2021 12:28 p.m.
liquid_water says... #11
One alternative could be Primordial Sage . It's definitely worse than Beast Whisperer, but it might still be good enough.
TheHelvault says... #1
DeinoStinkus those are good suggestions and I appreciate your feedback, however Arboreal Grazer isn't a card I'm willing to swap out one of my other 1 drops for. He would do his job well, but it's not worth cutting out something like Caustic Caterpillar or Sylvan Safekeeper.
Nissa, Who Shakes the World is good, but leaves some of my lands vulnerable before I can get the emblem, so I may honestly swap Zendikar Resurgent with her. The issue with that though is that I'm giving up doubling white Mana and drawing cards off of creature casts, so I will have to weigh the options.
The lands are good, I've been planning to add them for a while, just never really saw the need to yet. Krosan Verge is too slow for my purposes, as it takes at least until turn 3 to turn it into 2 lands, and late game it's nearly useless. I see what you're thinking and you're right, it works great in a selesnya ramp deck, but this deck only needs to get to 5 Mana ASAP.
Thank you and I do really appreciate the input
August 16, 2020 9:52 a.m.