Karador, Ghost Chieftain: The Primer!

Commander / EDH Beezy

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Winterblast says... #1

I often find myself using the cheapest artifact/enchantment removals for destroying the mana rocks of my opponents in the early game. Especially when you don't have a quick start it's nice to prevent others from having a quick start either. Cutting a land for when you get the mana crypt is always a trick...you're still at 34 lands, which could be further reduced with more artifact power

June 26, 2017 4:23 p.m.

Beezy says... #2

Right, yeah. I feel like i see a lot of decks with super high land counts and I can never bring myself to do that with any of my decks. One land I definitely want to add (I'm fine with swapping land-for-land) is Geier Reach Sanitarium. That card is AWESOME.

June 27, 2017 2:48 a.m.

SufferFromEDHD says... #3

your deck inspired me to build my own Karador list. there is just something about Greater Good and a recurable Yosei, the Morning Star that brings a tear to my eye. I have only one suggestion for this list: Hunting Grounds.

September 21, 2017 8:49 p.m.

Beezy says... #4

Wow, I'm glad I could inspire yo to make your own version of the deck! Yosei is one of my favorite cards, with a sac outlet he's basically like a reverse-infinite-turn combo, which is extreeeemely juicy. I somehow have never even seen Hunting Grounds before in my life, and it seems like an amazing way to cheat mana cost; I'll be sue to test that card out as soon as I get a chance!

September 21, 2017 11:42 p.m.

Interesting, but you never know how good a deck is going to be in different play groups.

March 5, 2018 10:38 p.m.

Animejunkie95 says... #6

Quick question what would you replace for someone who wants to play triskelion ? Would you replace chrome mox ?

March 7, 2018 12:35 p.m.

Beezy says... #7

I wouldn't replace Chrome Mox with Triskelion since they don't fill similar roles. If you want to go for the Mikaeus, the Unhallowed+Triskelion combo win then I would consider playing Tooth and Nail also. You can replace Craterhoof Behemoth or Yosei, the Morning Star, since those are my preferred wincons costing 6+ and you can easily swap them for yours.

March 7, 2018 2:21 p.m.

Animejunkie95 says... #8

ok cool thanks i still want to play hoof and id prefer to not consistently get the combo, since i just want it in there incase i need to do later

March 7, 2018 4:56 p.m.

Animejunkie95 says... #9

i would rather hit it in the graveyard rather than win all the time with tooth and nail

March 7, 2018 8:02 p.m.

Beezy says... #10

That's a great way of looking at it. I think EDH decks in general need more instant win combinations so games don't drag out for hours and hours. I would rather play 6 half-hour games than 2 hour-and-a-half-games. Combos don't need to be your only way to win, but they're there when you need them.

March 7, 2018 9:50 p.m.

Animejunkie95 says... #11

Exactly thats how i see it

March 8, 2018 1:12 p.m.

Animejunkie95 says... #12

also would you prefer chrome mox or mox diamond better for that slot since you dont need to exile something and just discard for the same effect ?

March 8, 2018 2:20 p.m.

Beezy says... #13

I absolutely want Mox Diamond instead. It's also possible I want to play both anyway though. I just need to pick up one and the foil is like $190. I also eventually want to put a Gaea's Cradle in here as well.

March 9, 2018 12:52 a.m.

Animejunkie95 says... #14

i Dig what would you replace for both diamond and cradle ? also thanks for the deck i found a commander i really want to build

March 9, 2018 6:45 p.m.

Beezy says... #15

Who is your commander you want to build? Cradle replaces a land for sure probably a basic I've been slowly trimming those. I was actually thinking of cutting Mikaeus, the Unhallowed since he's so expensive, so maybe him?

March 9, 2018 10:18 p.m.

Animejunkie95 says... #16

this commander actually ive wanted to make a busted commander for sure, and this one is my favorite and this deck is great. i can see cradle replace a basic, and i like mikeaus in the deck i was thinking replacing the mox with diamond since i feel that you want all your cards possible or maybe even replace chord since it feels that chord tends to be played a sorcery speed for a crater hoof win

March 11, 2018 2:16 p.m.

Beezy says... #17

I think cards like Chord of Calling are almost impossible to replace. Honestly it's always almost an instant speed tutor for a combo piece (my meta is very competitive), and if you're being disrupted it can deal with any permanent by fetching out what you need. That card is really unfair lol. I don't think I've ever really gotten Craterhoof with it honestly

March 11, 2018 7:31 p.m.

Animejunkie95 says... #18

gotcha well thoughts on mox and diamond switch cause i feel you need to have most of the cards in the deck

March 11, 2018 11:04 p.m.

Beezy says... #19

My goal was to replace Viridian Emissary with Bloom Tender when I eventually got my hands on one, but I haven't been seeing that card appear too much in competitive lists that I find online. So that's probably what should be Mox Diamond.

March 13, 2018 3:28 p.m.

Animejunkie95 says... #20

i think is cause viridian emissary is more consistent cause its basically draw 2 get a basic cause the worst bloom tender gets is 1 mana the best it gets is 3. So i can see why that would be replaced though for mox

March 14, 2018 11:59 a.m.

Beezy says... #21

I like Viridian Emissary but the list is so tight that I think it's what needs to go next.

March 14, 2018 1 p.m.

Animejunkie95 says... #22

gotcha thanks!

March 14, 2018 1:53 p.m.

Emagstar says... #23

So I'm pretty sure you want World Shaper in this deck, given its essentially Splendid Reclamation on a body, plus it lets you mill for 3 each time it attacks. Seem like it fits what you want to do pretty well.

March 20, 2018 10:58 a.m.

Beezy says... #24

I haven't given that card literally any thought, I kind of just wrote it off as mediocre in the competitive scene, but it's actually possible I want this guy over Solemn Simulacrum. I'll have to test it out because it seems like there's a few spicy scenarios I could cook up.

March 20, 2018 12:50 p.m.

linkfreak509 says... #25

What's Your opinion on running things like Sewer Nemesis or Lord of Extinction + Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord

I made a deck where this combo was one of the main win conditions and was thinking about putting it into a karador deck based on yours. Thanks!

March 21, 2018 2 p.m.

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