Bobgalarneau says... #2
Mikaeus, the Unhallowed combo real nice witth all non-human ETB creatures. My favorite is with Shriekmaw, for 1b you get 2 removal and. +1/+1 shriekmaw.
If you want more idea look at my karador, power reanimator in your face
March 3, 2013 9:50 p.m.
Bobgalarneau says... #3
Also Life from the Loam, since you already run those cycle lands
March 3, 2013 9:51 p.m.
guerillarage says... #4
Thanks for the commants everyone!! Ok I have decided that Birthing Pod & Mikaeus, the Unhallowed are definitely going in. Just have to figure out what to take out. Also Regarding Krosan Grip I was torn between that, Return to Dust, and Slice in Twain. Still not sure which I like better.
March 4, 2013 8:08 p.m.
Bobgalarneau says... #5
Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet, it's slow removal... You should aim for ETB effects, especialy if you add mikaeus to the deck
March 4, 2013 9:22 p.m.
Bobgalarneau says... #6
Darksteel Plate, Whispersilk Cloak : karador doesn't need protection. If you do things right, it should never cost you more than 3 mana, no matter how many time he dies. Most of the times opponents will try to exile painfull creatures and your grave more than kill karador
March 4, 2013 9:27 p.m.
guerillarage says... #7
Kalitas will come out. Mikeus will go in. I will consider removing Darksteel Plate and Whispersilk Cloak. I have also been thinking of cutting the walls. Wall of Blossoms, Wall of Omens, andCarven Caryatid. I like the card drawing they provide, especially with reanimation, but then they just sit there and get wiped. What do you think are some suitable replacements for the walls (yes I still call them walls)?
March 4, 2013 9:50 p.m.
guerillarage says... #8
-1 Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet-1 Whispersilk Cloak-1 Darksteel Plate
+1 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed+1 Chromatic Lantern+1 Birthing Pod
March 5, 2013 7:25 a.m.
guerillarage says... #9
-1 Carven Caryatid+1 Eternal Witness (Can't believe I didn't have that in before Facepalm
March 5, 2013 10:29 a.m.
guerillarage says... #10
Above you can see what used to be in there and what I have added recently. I've got a solid mana base now.
Many of the creatures have ETB or ETG effects that are reusable via recursion. I also have a few ways to snag a creature from any opponents graveyards as well.
Creatures
Acidic Slime - Multipurpose removal.
Archon of Justice - Removal/Beats
Artisan of Kozilek - Removal/Beats
Brutalizer Exarch - A little expensive to play but it can tutor or tuck a noncreature permanent.
Coffin Queen - With her I will be looking to mostly target a creature in an opponents graveyard.
Dauntless Escort - With all of the board wipes in this deck, this will come in handy in making those wipes 1-sided.
Disciple of Bolas - A decent way to draw cards in this type of deck.
Elvish Visionary - Card drawing & chump blocker.
Eternal Witness - Self-explanatory. A green EDH staple.
Fauna Shaman - Tutoring. The discarding doesn't really hurt in this deck. In many cases it will help.
Fleshbag Marauder - Perhaps the most hated card in the entire deck. Sun Titan 's friend.
Harvester of Souls - This can get me a lot of cards, especially after a board wipe.
High Priest of Penance - This will make your opponents think twice before attacking you with non-evasive creatures.
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord - Serves multiple purposes. Nice utility creature.
Karmic Guide - Recursion.
Kokusho, the Evening Star - Excellent here, especially since he can be played multiple times.
Magus of the Disk - Reusable board wipe.
Mikaeus, the Unhallowed - This effectively doubles your ETB/ETG effects.
Myojin of Cleansing Fire - Remove the divinity to wipe the board. Then I can add another divinity counter to it via That Which Was Taken .
Necrotic Sliver - This little fella can destroy any tergetable permanent.
Sakura-Tribe Elder - Chump block & fetch a land.
Sheoldred, Whispering One - Game over if this thing is allowed to stay on the field.
Shriekmaw - Removal.
Solemn Simulacrum - Ramp & card draw all on 1 card.
Sun Titan - One of the most useful cards in the deck. A Karador staple.
Teneb, the Harvester - Beats and recursion.
Treasury Thrull - This is good because it can bring back creatures/artifacts/enchantments. Extort is a nice little bonus.
Wall of Omens - Card drawing. Not much else.
Wood Elves - This is good because it can search for shocklands that have a forest type. It even comes into play untapped.
Yavimaya Elder - Card drawing and ramp on 1 card.
Artifacts
Armillary Sphere - Ramp.
Birthing Pod - A very good tutor for this type of deck.
Bonehoard - This could potentially get very big mid-late game.
Chromatic Lantern - Mana fixing.
Darksteel Ingot - Mana Fixing.
Lightning Greaves - Gives protection & haste.
Oblivion Stone - More mass removal.
Plague Boiler - Mass removal.
Quicksilver Amulet - Used to cheat the more expensive creatures into play. Considering pulling this for Elvish Piper .
Sol Ring - Ramp.
That Which Was Taken - Myojin of Cleansing Fire shenanigans and can also make other stuff indestructable.
Instants/Sorceries
Beast Within - Versatile removal.
Krosan Grip - Uncounterable artifact/enchantment removal.
Mortify - Versatile removal.
Beacon of Unrest - Reusable reanimation from any graveyard.
Black Sun's Zenith - A nice way to wipe the board. Gets rid of indestructables and is reusable.
Buried Alive - Tutor to the yard. This sets up for Karador, both decreasing his cost to play, as well as getting some nice targets to play from your yard.
Consuming Vapors - Make em sac 2 turns in a row!
Damnation - Mass removal.
Day of Judgment - Mass removal.
Diabolic Tutor - Tutoring.
Jarad's Orders - Sets up the Sun Titan & Fleshbag Marauder play.
Kodama's Reach - Ramp
Phyrexian Rebirth - Board wipe.
Planar Cleansing - Board wipe.
Unburial Rites - Recursion. Can be used twice with flashback.
Wrath of God - Mass removal.
Enchantments
Attrition - Creature removal.
Aura Shards - Artifact/Enchantment removal.
Grave Betrayal - Recursion. Awesome with a board wipe.
Planar Collapse - Janky board wipe. This will get replaced with Pernicious Deed when I decide I wanna shell out the $$ to get one.
March 30, 2013 7:08 p.m.
Necrotic Sliver and Sylvan Primordial would be really strong!
April 15, 2013 10:38 p.m.
guerillarage says... #12
Thanks for that. Necrotic Sliver is already in there and I can add Sylvan Primordial if I get in a multiplayer game. Unfortunately, most of the games I play are duels, as there aren't many people in my area to play with.
April 16, 2013 10:02 p.m.
Well that's unfortunate. Yosei, the Morning Star is pretty hardcore in 1 on 1. Just lock them out of untapping.
April 16, 2013 10:10 p.m.
miracleHat says... #14
i concur with Yosei, the Morning Star , that thing is evil in karador decks. Nezumi Graverobber might also be really fun.
April 26, 2013 8:14 p.m.
guerillarage says... #15
I've been toying with the Yosei lock Idea. Any idea what I should pull for it? At this point cuts are painfully hard. I mean I would like to fit Asceticism in too but just don't have the room.
April 27, 2013 7:29 a.m.
guerillarage says... #16
Also I need to make room for Deadbridge Chant when Dragon's Maze is released.
April 27, 2013 7:33 a.m.
No Karador EDH deck with Karmic Guide is complete without Saffi Eriksdotter.
May 4, 2013 5:38 a.m.
guerillarage says... #18
I see your point. I've been considering pulling Dauntless Escort . I may throw Saffi in and do some playtesting. Thanks for the suggestion.
May 4, 2013 11:27 a.m.
redrocketrobot says... #19
Not sure if you consider the interaction between Reveillark and your Karmic Guide to be too combo but it could be good in the deck.
June 28, 2013 10 p.m.
guerillarage says... #21
Indeed I used to run Deadbridge Chant . It fits the strategy of the deck but the randomness of it just wasn't working out. It rarely helped. Plus this isn't one of those Karador milling decks.
September 21, 2013 8:28 a.m.
devotiontoblue says... #22
Shocks over Alpha Duals? C'mon, live a little
December 22, 2013 12:23 p.m.
guerillarage says... #23
lol yeah I believe I put it in my description that I need to aquire those yet. Theyre not the cheapest thing around.
December 22, 2013 12:27 p.m.
Have you considered Vengeful Pharaoh ? He's value in and out of the graveyard and a fun sneak attack. Inexpensive, too.
December 22, 2013 1:04 p.m.
devotiontoblue says... #25
Have you considered more sacrifice outlets? Cartel Aristocrat and Varolz, the Scar-Striped would take care of that.
Lhurgyof says... #1
Krosan Grip definitely deserves a slot, so does Angel of Despair and Birthing Pod.
+1, you should check out my Karador deck, Karador, ETB Chieftan.
March 3, 2013 9:36 p.m.