WomboCombo says... #2
Thanks for the feedback bob111634.
I've changed up the board a little bit, dropped Solidarity of Heroes for Defiant Strike as well as adding in your suggestions :)
November 8, 2014 8:22 p.m.
Glad I could help, Defiant Strike is nice for the card draw.
November 8, 2014 11:19 p.m.
WomboCombo says... #4
And its a nice heroic enabler
Also switched Swan Song for Feat of Resistance because its insane with Hardened Scales out.
November 8, 2014 11:25 p.m.
Feat is a cool card, the protection is a pretty big swing if they try to Abzan Charm or Hero's Downfall your guy.
November 8, 2014 11:33 p.m.
WomboCombo says... #6
Yeah, being able to pump and protect your guy is great.
I'm considering dropping Fabled Hero for 1 more Hero of Iroas and Battlewise Hoplite, since Fabled Hero feels way too slow.
November 9, 2014 4:14 p.m.
Ordeal of Thassa will be sacrificed and draw you 2 cards by the time the equiped monster gets three or more +1/+1 counters on itmeaning it will be sacrificed by the second heroic trigger (with aqueous form in your example) supposing you got an hardened scales.Still an awesome deck though.Well done!
November 11, 2014 3:33 p.m.
WomboCombo says... #8
Thanks for the comments Brainiac0 :)
Ordeal of Thassa only checks for 3+ counters when the creature attacks, so with Hardened Scales out it will also give 4 counters (2 from the heroic trigger and then 2 from attacking).
Its super-value with Hero of Iroas, as it will only cost 1 mana to give 4 +1/+1 counters and draw 2 cards.
November 11, 2014 8:07 p.m.
IRollTwnties says... #9
Sage of Hours. Scales with Ordeals can stack up the extra turns real quick. you can often just chain two or three turns together and just win off of that. Consider removing some of your redundant pieces for additional land and Ajani, Mentor of Heroes for late game options.
November 12, 2014 8:26 a.m.
marke18968 says... #10
November 12, 2014 9:04 a.m.
This does incredibly well during playtesting. I subbed out four battlewise hoplite for 4 sage of hours though. Too good to not play in this deck.
November 13, 2014 2:37 a.m.
WomboCombo says... #14
Apologies for not commenting sooner but thanks for all of the suggestions and feedback.
@IRollTwnties - I had toyed around with Sage of Hours, but I found that the scry advantage from Battlewise Hoplite was greater than the extra turns. Ajani, Mentor of Heroes is a little high for the curve and I don't think he adds that much in the late game. Ideally I would be winning on turn 5/6.
@marke18968 - Battle Mastery is a sweet card with Hero of Iroas out, but feels a touch too expensive otherwise. Still something I'm playing around with though.
@corythackston - I haven't thought of using Hero of Leina Tower yet, but I don't think it's the best fit for this deck without significant changes. Green is the smallest color splashed in this deck and with only 21 lands, I usually don't have much mana to sink in to the trigger. Even then, I think Favored Hoplite is the better 1 drop due to the damage prevention.
November 20, 2014 11:37 p.m.
one of the best interactions I've seen lately was;
Turn 1 Plains - Favored Hoplite
turn 2 Forest - Hardened Scales
turn 3 Plains - Ordeal of Nylea attached to hoplite he gets +2/+2, swing he gets +2/+2, fetch two lands off the ordeal.
turn 4 Forest - access to 6 mana with a 5/5 hoplite in play.
November 21, 2014 3:24 p.m.
I can't help but bring up Singing Bell Strike doesn't synergize well with Treasure Cruise
I'd suggest replacing the bell strikes with an instant or sorcery type removal, or just drop the 2x Treasure Cruise from the sb.
November 21, 2014 3:28 p.m.
plus 1 from me. Fabled Hero and Solidarity of Heroes are really good. check out my deck if you dont mind. Im using Hardened Scales and Solidarity of Heroes Deck: 9/9 Krakens Are Small
November 23, 2014 2:34 p.m.
WomboCombo says... #19
Thanks for the comments and the +1's gents.
@Behgz - I'm not sure if having 6 mana untapped on turn 4 is necessary to win the game, but at worst Ordeal of Nylea will thin the deck out of a few basic lands while pumping my dudes. Will try and find room for it, thanks!
@izzetme - I was originally running Fabled Hero in this deck ended up removing him as he always felt a bit too slow. Solidarity of Heroes is an interesting one, I may try switching it out for Become Immense. Thanks for the suggestion!
November 23, 2014 9:51 p.m.
JakeHarlow says... #20
You may want more critters on the SB, or at least stuff that makes 'em. Raise the Alarm comes to mind. I say this because you only run 13, which means removal could stop you dead depending on the hand you draw. I'm not at all being a nay-sayer here, I'm just suggesting. I love Voltron, great brew! +1 for originality and style!
November 23, 2014 10:04 p.m.
This is just a side not but I love how people are building the opposite color combos than what wizards is pushing with khans but now into hopefully helping you're deck
What a big problem I think you're going to have is caryatid courser decks and while you can't do a lot to caryatid besides punch thru it with you're instants/enchantments you can deal with courser well with things like erase or if you shifted this deck to more of an instant heavy and not enchantment heavy deck you could defiantly benefit from Back to Nature
A different option to go with is more counter spells side board or a spell that will wipe their board while I understand that in an agro deck counter aren't the way you want to go Nullify I've always found helpful also if you're later game because the other person has dragged the game out to a midrange game I would run Polymorphist's Jest sideboard because it helps for either defending or for attacking
November 23, 2014 10:05 p.m.
WomboCombo says... #22
Thanks @JakeHarlow. I haven't had a chance to run this deck at FNM yet so I don't know what does and doesn't work in the sideboard. Hopefully I should be able to put this deck to the test this Friday.
Using ALL of the suggestions above, I may drop Treasure Cruise for a few extra heroic creatures such as Fabled Hero or Akroan Skyguard, maybe even another Eidolon of Countless Battles or 2.
Besides the 8 mainboard protection cards, I can always sideboard in Stubborn Denial, Ajani's Presence and maybe even Spectra Ward vs heavy removal decks anyway.
November 23, 2014 10:13 p.m.
JakeHarlow says... #23
That could be a good call. It's really dependent on the meta. Though I'll mention that Seeker of the Way is a very strong tech against mono-red and other aggressive decks. That life gain can put you out of reach.
November 23, 2014 10:17 p.m.
WomboCombo says... #24
@cjk191997 - Thank you for your comments.
The problem with switching from an enchantment deck to an instant/sorcery one is that I would miss out on Hardened Scales, which was one of the main reasons for putting this deck together. Your point is not missed though.
I'm not sure how consistently I'd be able to cast Nullify with my current land base, but I may be able to re-jig it a bit. Otherwise I could add something like Devouring Light in.
I'm a big fan of Polymorphist's Jest though. I used this as a sideboard card in my RUG monsters deck and was able to use jest to blow out other mid-range decks. Adding it to the maybeboard until I can find a spot for it.
November 23, 2014 10:23 p.m.
WomboCombo says... #25
@JakeHarlow - Seeker of the Way would actually be pretty sweet. Even if I have another heroic creature out which is getting all of the enchants/instants on it, Seeker still benefits.
Added in to the maybeboard :)
bob111634 says... #1
I think you should try a couple Yavimaya Coast just to help mana fix, though not 4 because obviously we want enough basics to fetch. I also think that a 4thOrdeal of Thassa could be put in over a Swan Song or a Solidarity of Heroes as the card draw is super powerful. Overall I like the deck!
November 8, 2014 5:39 p.m.