card:Orim's Chant is cheap and can be helpfull as sidedeck in many ocasions

Nice deck love the idea, had to check it out since I also run a legacy knigth deck but with added levelers to pump everything up. Check it out! Leveling Knigths synergy!

I know that Path to Exile has been mentioned, but I like how it combos with Knight of the White Orchid.

Frontline Medic ?

Considering I got 6 copies of Frontline Medic I would love to use it but it would hurt the tribal win condition of this deck.

Was reviewing the old comments and I saw a suggestion I did not see at first. Orim's Chant . I will remove one of the Elspeth, Knight-Errant s and the Umezawa's Jitte for that. Thanks ADj

I have run this deck in many hundreds of games verses tons of people. This deck so far to me has been almost perfect.

Deck looks great man. I don't think i've seen it for some time since I last commented, but it looks like you have established some solid choices for a grindy mono-white aggro-control deck. Depending on your draws it seems you can win from a solid rush or draw it out with wraths into Worldslayer if you need to. Not bad.

Some thoughts:

• How is your mana fixing? You have 12 W mana non-creature spells (your instants + enchantments) and of your 20 lands, 6 use colourless mana. I kind of feel 4 caverns might be too many, but in your case with only 18 creatures I understand that you can't afford to be losing them to counterspells.

• I love Kinsbaile Cavalier but I think this deck would be even stronger without him. He works better in a list with 24+ creatures, where his T4-T5 entrance grants considerable board advantage and doubles the attack power of all your creatures. With only 18 creatures you don't really have that here. You need durable knights who can hold their own, who don't need to rely on each other as much for support, and he doesn't really fit the curve. With only two toughness at 4cmc he's just as susceptible to a well-placed Pyroclasm or Volcanic Fallout as anyone else.

I would personally drop him in favour of two more Hero of Bladehold . You already have 4 Brave the Elements included.. These two alone constitute a win-con. If you don't want more hero's you have a plethora of other options.. including the new Fiendslayer Paladin , who's lifegain will help you survive a longer game. I think the card most deserving of a slot in here, however, is Student of Warfare . With only 18 creatures each knight must be able to stand on their own, and he does just that very well. Getting a Hyena Umbra on him early and leveling him as the game progresses is really difficult for any opponent to deal with, honestly.

• I still feel your mana curve is too ambitious. 20 mana for so many T4 cards is very risky. I would seriously consider adding 1-2 more lands. Why not move a wrath and/or elspeth to the sideboard, and then add 1-2 more lands?

• Also a land that any mono-W deck must include is a set of 4 Flagstones of Trokair . Free help with deck thinning and land sacrifice (i.e. boom/bust, Smallpox from jund, etc). You can also tap the old one for mana before it's sacrificed if you play a second (made possible with new legendary rules change).

Have you ever considered adding a singleton Basilisk Collar ? It is a miracle worker in knights decks. Let me convince you (or at least try):

1) First strike + Deathtouch = a one-hit kill.

2) Lifegain helps outpace aggro and stay even against midrange.

3) Most importantly, having the collar sit on an untapped knight during your opponents turn is an incredible detterrant, and thus a fantastic defensive option. Not only will this cause your opponent to hesistate and drag the game out until you can play Worldslayer , jitte, spot removal, exemplar, or another wrath, BUT it can break a battlefield deadlock when faced against an opposing creature larger in P/T than any of your own, i.e. a powered-up Goyf.

I still think black is going to cause this deck problems, with the ever-common Liliana of the Veil in particular giving you a headache. This deck is very vulnerable to sacrifice.. decks that prepare to face off against bogle (aura hexproof decks) will bring in their sacrifice/exile spells in round two. White aggro decks you can likely outpace with first strike, indestructibility and wrath. Blue can be hit or miss, depending on what the strategy is. Green shouldn't cause you much trouble (with the exception of maybe Tarmogoyf , Scavenging Ooze and likely Deathrite Shaman - see why b. collar would be good here!). Red is dangerous, but your inclusion of BtE and side of Test of Faith + Leyline of Sanctity will help immensely.

So here is my two cent for your sideboard. You should bump up your leyline count to 4. You need to increase your odds of having one in your opening hand in round 2, it's a card where you either sub in all 4 or none. And it will make ALL of the difference in preventing burn, discard, sacrifice, and the like, effectivelly shutting Liliana of the Veil and many of your other weaknesses down. I also normally wouldn't advocate this, but since you can probably isolate your weaknesses so heavily to red and black, why not run a few Celestial Purge ?

Rest in Peace is excellent for any graveyard-focused strategies. Blue could potentially prove very troublesome for your deck. Counterspells and unsummons will ruin your day. You will likely end up competing in a longer game with a blue player, giving them a better chance to take control of the game. You don't want that to happen, make sure you have some extra cheap critters you can add in from the side against a blue player.

Your deck is also going to have an extremely hard time against combo decks. They will isolate and remove specific key cards of yours from the game, and put their own win on a short clock you will have to compete with. O-ring is a start, but you might want to add Pithing Needle or something to help stop that stuff in return.

Finally,your deck is Modern-legal with the exception of the jitte and swords to plowshares (easily replaced by a Sword of Fire and Ice and 4 Path to Exile ). Why not move this deck to modern and compete in an environment less tuned to so many ruthless T1-T2 win strategies?

MetaphysicalxProdigy You have given me some excelent insight and advice. I have had the chance to play this deck against a diversity of decks. I have had no problems with the mana curve and always seem to be drawing just the right amount. Before even reading your advice which since I haven't checked my stuff in a while I almost deleted when I was cleaning 50 + old comments off of this to make room for new ones I have decided that I am dropping Umezawa's Jitte and 1 copy of Elspeth, Knight-Errant . I draw the elspeth too much and I don't feel like Jitte is getting used to its full potential nor is the card slot in my deck that its taking up. Kinsbaile Cavalier is admittedly a weaker link in this deck due mostly to having too few creatures out at any given time. I usually have no more then 3. Any tokens spawned by elspeth and Hero of Bladehold is just cannon fodder so I dont count them as creatures since they die pretty fast when I wipe. Hero of Bladehold has had truly astonishing results when it comes to the field. Every time I play it I know its going to hold its own.

As played as Liliana of the Veil is I rarely ever see it pitted up against me. I didnt actually know about Flagstones of Trokair and since I have encountered a few players who like to destroy lands this may come in handy and if I am not drawing so well theres that potential of reshuffling my deck after searching a plains that I may get that card I need next draw. Rest in Peace is something I honestly overlooked since I rarely if ever encounter graveyard strategy. upping the Leyline of Sanctity count is something i will give thought into...One card I know for a fact that is going in the legacy version of this deck is Orim's Chant .

To be honest with you I am kind of stuck between Fiendslayer Paladin and Student of Warfare for replacing Kinsbaile Cavalier . What I am thinking about doing is replacing Kinsbaile Cavalier with the Student of Warfare and replacing Knight of Meadowgrain with the Fiendslayer Paladin . I dont like how it costs 1 mana more but I feel as if the protection from both black and red is quite worth it. I will play test it and see if I like the results.

Pithing Needle is a nice idea beacuse i have so many of them sitting around but I dont know what I would take out to make that work.Maybe swap it out with the Orim's Chant depending on if I feel like playing modern or legacy...

I would greatly like to know your opinion on this and thanks for the indepth and well written advice MetaphysicalxProdigy.

Hi there again! bringing 2 more card just to make decision more difficult!Pentarch Paladin as a high cost but his ability is ridiculous!

And maybe a better cheaper idea is Quest for the Holy Relic ! when this fellow has 5 five counters you can activate its ability as an instant and look for the Worldslayer and attach it to a creature already hitting the opponent!

Regarding the other post I agree and recommend adding Fiendslayer Paladin

Quest for the Holy Relic is actually something I have been pondering lately.

Quest for the Holy Relic Makes the deck a totally "Knights of the Holy Grail" kinda deck. Nice deck btw like it!

Knight of the Holy Nimbus ; such an amazingly fun name to announce when you play it.

I used to run Knight of the Holy Nimbus in this deck back when Day of Judgement?!?!?!! was my board cleaner.

I understand that this text utilizes knights, but Champion of the Parish would be so awesome in this deck. That soldier was a staple in standard for so long and for such a good reason.

How is Worldslayer working for u? Looks like it would be awesome with Knight of the Holy Nimbus ...I'm considering using it in a deck with Korlash, Heir to Blackblade or another one with Lotleth Troll

have you tried Avacyn, Angel of Hope because that will mean that the Knight Exemplar and all your lands wont be destroyed

APPLE01DOJ Ususlly Worldslayer gets equipped on a Leonin Skyhunter or Mirran Crusader when the conditions making my stuff indestructible have been met. Depending on what deck im playing against if I am on the losing side I can sneak it through in a last ditch effort as well. Its not too bad in this deck.

mr_mcmanic_man Avacyn, Angel of Hope goes against the all knight theme of this deck and functionally speaking its mana cost is through the roof and would never see play in this deck.

I thought the card was awesome when I saw it in your deck and decided to make a deck built around it myself. check it out. Phyrexian Affinity

Thats a nice deck APPLE01DOJ. I left you some suggestions. The wonderful thing about Worldslayer is that if used the right way your opponent wont have any lands while you still have your creatures. You may or may not have your lands but if they don't have ther lands while you have a small army on your side you don't need lands. Its usually game over. This is why I love boardwipes and why most of my serious decks have them.

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