Countertop interesting (says me and my wallet).
back to workbench
September 18, 2015 11:56 a.m.
BeardPuppy says... #3
This build is probably shell you should put the combo in. You shouldn't be looking to combo of as your win con every time as this combo is highly susceptible to disruption. It should just be another tool in the arsenal, and Retreat to Coralhelm is plenty good when it's just tapping down blockers to let Geist of Saint Traft and Steppe Lynx through.
September 18, 2015 1:51 p.m.
Tomazinhal says... #4
I love the deck!
How about some Lotus Cobra and/or Eternal Witness.
Maybe even Restoration Angel to apply pressure and a little black splash for Siege Rhino alongside Thragtusk.
I've seen the posts on reddit and have been following them.
September 20, 2015 11:58 a.m.
Tomazinhal: Thanks :). I dont know about Lotus Cobra. I had it in my first list, but it seemed redundant. Retreat to Coralhelm turns any mana dork into Lotus Cobra anyways, so i think i have enough ramp. After all, 2x Sun Titan is the only expensive cards in this deck.
Eternal Witness is more interesting, but i do have Sun Titan for that purpose. Im gonna consider it tho :).
Resto, Rhino and Tusk seems nice, but thats a lot of changes :). Im gonna try out this list a bit first, and i try black splash ETB shenanigans when i know exactly how powerful this build is :)
September 20, 2015 12:37 p.m.
Great combo. Think this combo is going to become pretty popular because all of the cards in it are good on their own.
Nice eye.
September 21, 2015 12:35 p.m.
BigRed: Added 3x Collected Company, took out 1x Sun Titan, 1x Thrun, the Last Troll and 1x Canopy Vista (going down to 23 lands, which i think is ok since i have 8 dorks).
September 21, 2015 1:29 p.m.
Hallowed fountain and more Temple gardens are great. And i added serum visions in mine to help find the pieces
September 21, 2015 1:44 p.m.
BigRed: The problem with more shocks is that I need to crack as many fetches as possible when comboing, so thats 8 damage there. I think the mana fixing is good enough, with 8 dorks producing any mana, and enough shocks to be fetched. Took out one Breeding Pool for another Temple Garden to even it out now that Canopy Vista is gone.
September 21, 2015 2 p.m.
The slow lands are bad for this deck and i added flooded strands serum visions and remands as counters/ temp to find the missing pieces and its been so consistent easy turn 3-5 win. Here is what i found Combo Wombo
September 21, 2015 2:09 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #12
You do not need Rogue's Passage. I can guarantee you that. Sejiri Steppe is more than good enough. What you do need in here though is Celestial Colonnades.
September 22, 2015 11:47 a.m.
Sejiri Steppe doesn't work against affinity, or if they have more than one color amongst blockers. Rogue's Passage is nice to have in those situations. Im adding Celestial Colonnade :)
September 22, 2015 7:21 p.m. Edited.
Vines of Vastwood > Apostle's Blessing in ze sb?
You can bring it in a wider variety of matches. For instance its actually good against twin because opps, their guy cant be targeted by the enchantment or death zoo because it can stop their own pump spells on their guys.
September 23, 2015 12:23 p.m.
ToolmasterOfBrainerd says... #16
I'd rebuild the sideboard. You're in white, so you have access to hate for literally every deck, and with a mostly proactive style of play, hate is the best way to go.
Your options include Scavenging Ooze, Kitchen Finks, Kataki, War's Wage, Stony Silence, Choke, Kor Firewalker, Bojuka Bog (bog as 1-of for fetchable grave hate), Ghost Quarter (same as bog, but for land destruction), Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Ghostly Prison, and more.
September 29, 2015 10:45 p.m.
blasphemale says... #17
I'd maybe put a Sejiri Steppe in the sideboard when fighting for example mono-coloured or creatureless decks because it grants both protection and unblockability to your Knight.
October 7, 2015 6:44 a.m.
Thanks for your suggestion :). I had Sejiri Steppe mainboard, but as ChiefBell pointed out in his list (Knightfall (New BFZ Combo)) Sejiri Steppe is pretty easy to play around. Your opponent will play his removal when the knight is tapped, so you cant respond to it unless you have 2 knights or a uncracked fetch and Retreat to Coralhelm. Its OK to pass blockers if you are against mono colored, but Rogue's Passage does that as well and more consistent.
October 7, 2015 9:40 a.m.
The_Redpill says... #19
Great deck. Mayhaps I will purchase it by (k)nightfall...
October 9, 2015 6:23 p.m.
Played the deck for the first time today and it went pretty well :). I won 3 games in a row against grixis delver, then 3 games in a row against burn. 1-2 against storm, and 2-1 against junk. I only got to combo two of the games, and Elspeth, Knight-Errant was probably the card that won most matches.
I did some changes to the list..
-1 Celestial Colonnade
-1 Retreat to Coralhelm
+2 Kitchen Finks
October 9, 2015 11:02 p.m.
Have you thought about selling your first born son for some goyfs? All jokes aside I love the deck, it seems like it is going to be a big part of modern in the near future.
October 13, 2015 1:04 p.m.
No i would never spend that kind of money on a card as boring as Tarmogoyf. Im one of those who thinks goyf is good, but more like $20-$30 good ;). I think the deck works well without it. With the 7 mana dorks i usually play my 3-drops turn 2, and i would play Loxodon Smiter or Geist of Saint Traft over Tarmogoyf turn 2 every time anyways.
I am starting to question the 2 Kitchen Finks. Played the deck with them once, and they didn't do much. Any suggestions for other more aggressive creatures? Im thinking maybe Rhox War Monk, but i dont know. Or maybe +1 Collected Company and/or +1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant. Or maybe some protection with Faith's Shield.. Any suggestions (not goyf :P)?
October 17, 2015 8:19 a.m.
I tried the at my LGS today and went 4-0.
2-0 against Jund
2-0 against UWR control
2-1 against Bant revelations
2-1 against burn.
Won a Modern Masters booster and pulled a Necroskitter :(
October 19, 2015 5:24 p.m.
Penga_is_a_Nugget says... #25
what do you think about Woodland Bellower and Bring to Light to help fetch? Also would Kiora, Master of the Depths work to sort through stuff? im thinking of building a budgeted version of the deck.
Countertop says... #1
I did some testing, and over Primeval Titan, I found that Sun Titan is better, because it can recur both combo pieces, and the deck doesn't actually need all the lands that prime time poops out
September 18, 2015 11:51 a.m.