Leeching Cotton: Oloro's Couch
Commander / EDH
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MrHighscore says... #2
Thank you for the feedback!
- I don't feel like Felidar Sovereign when running Humility (it cancels the effect) and Land Equilibrium (encourages me to halt at 5 mana).
- I have one counter spell in my deck (Muddle the Mixture) and Karmic Justice can be used to punish right back... but otherwise you are correct; I am helpless against enchantment wipes. I'll consider what to do (In the Eye of Chaos could be the answer)
- I like your suggestion with Teferi's Care. I'll see if I can work it in. One for one is also okay when lands start to pile up in my hand.
- Celestial Convergence is sort of okay. I have to work around the counters somehow. Copies made with Copy Enchantment and Clever Impersonator would still get the counters, and I currently have no other way of removing counters. I think it is cool, but a bit too situational (would neet to add and draw Vampire Hexmage).
- In the Eye of Chaos as you mentioned in #SorryNotSorry is awesome! I have to find room for that! It will 'combo' nicely with taxes and the (my) 5 lands max rule of Land Equilibrium.
Cheers
January 6, 2016 1:23 a.m.
Ender666666 says... #3
Another 2 gems of cards are as follows:
-Cloud Cover: Simply makes everything that much harder to take out with spot removal
-Reparations: Kill my stuff? No worries bro, I'll just draw some cards (and it's been given errata that says "any opponent", vs. "target opponent" as printed). Reparations also has one of the best flavour texts ever printed in the game
January 6, 2016 7 a.m.
Since you are playing a creatureless deck (and I really like it) you could add Spreading Plague, it helps a lot against creatures.
+1 great deck!!
January 6, 2016 9:53 a.m.
MrHighscore says... #5
Thank you for the suggestions!
- Cloud Cover is nice. I'll see if I can find some synergi with my current lineup.
- Reparations is also pretty good, but I don't think it will work in this deck, since I have so few creatures, and I'd prefer Leyline of Sanctity over it for personal protection.
- Spreading Plague is awesome, but I was unable to find room for it. I'll reconsider.
I am considering the following changes - thoughts?
- Descent into Madness --> In the Eye of Chaos: DIM's synergy with the rest of the deck is not that impressive, since people will be holding a lot of cards, if I have it my way. In the Eye of Chaos will provide much more value.
- Something (Maybe Reverence?) --> Teferi's Care: Reverence seems a bit too redundant (lots of tax and other attack blockers) and it sort of depends on Humility to really work. TC is OK on it's own, but really shines with Enchanted Evening.
Cheers
January 6, 2016 2:32 p.m.
What about Cabal Coffers and Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx? Those are great lands when you are full of permanents.
January 8, 2016 9:54 a.m.
MasterVash says... #7
Reverence is great with Humility, but without it, it won't stop much, no. Odds are the opponent either won't want to attack you with their less-than-three power creatures anyway, they're already bigger via Anthem effects, or it's something like Pulse Tracker and it doesn't matter who the opponent attacks. Humility is good by itself, but the same can't be said for Reverence. I'd say cut it.
January 8, 2016 5:03 p.m.
MrHighscore says... #8
Thank you for the feedback.
- Good suggestins, but I'm struggling with the fixation and I don't have room for Expedition Map so I won't be adding Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx. I'm not running enough swamps to add Cabal Coffers and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth without Expedition Map is just not consistent enough.
- Yeah. Reverence is out!
Cheers
Changes
- Reverence --> In the Eye of Chaos: Eye is just bat s*** crazy!
- Descent into Madness --> Teferi's Care: This was the least synergestic card I could find. I'm not happy to let Descent into Madness go, but given how often I'll tutor Enchanted Evening then Teferi's Care will be very powerful with the current build!
- More consistent and slightly lowers CMC and improves tutorbility with Muddle the Mixture
January 10, 2016 2:20 p.m. Edited.
I know its expensive but have you tried moat its another shutdown with humility and is insanely good on its own
January 10, 2016 10:40 p.m.
MrHighscore says... #10
@ace6791 Thank you for the feedback! :)
- I could probably get my hands on a Moat (at least it is more affordable than The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale), but I wonder if it would not be better to add a Spreading Plague. In either case - what would you drop to make room?
Cheers
January 11, 2016 12:54 p.m.
daniel.goldberg.98 says... #11
If you can get Moat then take out Kismet-you won't realy want it as one of your 4drops, or Lim-Dul's Vault- weak againts milling and you got plenty of other tutors and card draw
January 11, 2016 3:47 p.m.
zyphermage says... #12
Eh moat would be better over kismet, but do not drop lim-dul's vault. That thing is so sweet.
January 11, 2016 5:08 p.m.
NinjaBunny01 says... #14
I know that The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale is a very expensive card, but I think you should add it to your list. It not only slows down creature based decks, but allows you to sac the few creatures you do have. Which is nothing but a benefit to you.
Course you could also run High Market to get rid of them too, if you are having troubles doing so.
January 13, 2016 5:21 p.m.
all in all spreading plague is good but tabernacle is a land with a great ability basically a free pendrell mists honestly what you have is great I'am glad you've made this deck and thanks for taking my advice on cards
January 13, 2016 11:43 p.m.
also I just thought about this why not enduring ideal?
January 15, 2016 1:46 a.m.
TheDirtyWizard says... #17
i have a simial plan with oloro. i will say youve done a great job tinkering and forming this deck! one sugestion i might add to shut down Bane of Progress,Reclamation Sage and other etb effects (since we dont really run any) is Hushwing Gryff. he is a badass.
February 20, 2016 1:32 a.m.
MrHighscore says... #18
So, I finally got around to assemble the deck, and now that I have it, I want to make some changes... go figure :)
Cards that must go in the deck:
- The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale (yeah, I got one now :))
- High Market (more consistent sac outlet, can be fetched with Muddle the Mixture
Would like in the deck
- Triskaidekaphobia (excellent win condition, but I'd prefer to keep other win conditions in as well)
- Torpor Orb (more ETB ensurance)
- More counters (protect key combos)
- More transmute (tutor for what I need)
Thoughts?
But I don't have a single card that I really want to get rid of. Candidates are:
- Supreme Verdict (seems wrong to drop it for High Market)
- Lim-Dul's Vault
- Man lands, as they are there as fallback, fallback. They can't really be dropped for anything but lands (but they could be upgradet to lands that does not enter the battlefield tapped)
Cheers
April 22, 2016 2:56 a.m.
MrHighscore says... #19
Enduring Ideal is sweet for this deck, but I would like to lock down at around 5 mana. Having Paradox Haze just shout 'do it anyway'. I'll reconsider.
Cheers
April 22, 2016 2:59 a.m.
zyphermage says... #20
Personally I think you have too many win conditions. I would drop 1x Bloodchief Ascension1x Palace Siege1x Subversion1x Underworld Dreams
April 22, 2016 4:34 a.m.
MrHighscore says... #21
I've been considering my options, and would like your input:
Suggested changes
- Plains --> High Market (More consistent sacking)
- Supreme Verdict --> The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale (yeah, it's so good that I can drop an Supreme Verdict. Punishes the opponents creatures and let me sack my own.)
- Bloodchief Ascension --> Forbid (out due to lack of synergy with Rest in Peace and in to protect me versus destroy all enchantments effects)
- Opalescence --> Mana Drain (Narrow combo out, control and ramp in)
- Cyclonic Rift --> Triskaidekaphobia (I should not be using Cyclonic Rift on a single target, and I want a mana lockdown before I can overload it, so it's one of the auto-includes in blue, that I will not be playing with. Also good to leave out, when I plan to name it with Nevermore)
- ??? --> Enduring Ideal. If I am ahead this will speed up the game considerably. Also insanely good with Paradox Haze.
Cheers
April 23, 2016 3:32 p.m.
MrHighscore says... #22
@zyphermage Thank you for the input!
I think that my win-con's are so slow that they need redundancy to speed things up. I've kept your point in mind while constructing the change list above.
Cheers
April 23, 2016 3:34 p.m.
says "doesnt need to get off couch"--- gets trashed by bloodmoon lmao. We need a condescending wonka meme insert.
April 23, 2016 5:48 p.m.
MrHighscore says... #24
@Jsmith94 you bring up a valid point. How would you harden this deck aginst Blood Moon? I can't really drop the dual lands, as they are crucial to achieve the dual (and triple) chrono costs, with as few lands on the table as possible.
I guess I could add Celestial Dawn and some counters, but that only takes me so far.
Cheers
April 25, 2016 3:28 p.m.
zyphermage says... #25
Just counter it or run Return to Dust type removals. There's a slew of them in white.
NinjaBunny01 says... #1
So I just recently discovered Celestial Convergence and thought you would be interested in it. Can make you win instantly if you run Vampire Hexmage ;)
January 5, 2016 3:19 p.m.