Love the concept of the deck! Do you think you can fit 2 or 3 Windstorm in the sideboard? It can help you take care of some annoying fliers at instant speed like Prognostic Sphinx and Stormbreath Dragon !
September 25, 2014 2:07 a.m.
EvilKidsMeal says... #4
MitsosRS I probably will actually, considering Nissa, Worldwaker is 35 dollars per card, im not willing to spend that much on 3 cards in a sideboard so ill playtest with Windstorm and if it works than its replacing Nissa.
September 25, 2014 2:29 a.m.
@FAINT The +2/+2 for Rakshasa Deathdealer is temporary. It essentially adds +2/+2 for each activation, it doesn't receive 2 +1/+1 counters. So Hardened Scales won't help.
September 25, 2014 3:22 a.m.
EvilKidsMeal says... #7
lookoutimscary I was waiting for someone to point that out XD, its a TF2 reference.
September 25, 2014 8:01 p.m.
I want this deck so bad, but I cannot afford it yet. +1 For epicness and new card usage.
I would offer the suggestion of only using one or two of each planeswalker that you have in this, but that's my personal preference when using planeswalkers.
September 26, 2014 9:47 a.m.
P4nd4monium says... #10
just how important are the Sorin, Solemn Visitor s to this deck? im not a big fan of him.
September 26, 2014 10:18 a.m.
I love it, but I think I would take out Rakshasa Deathdealer and Sorin, Solemn Visitor for 3-4 Fleecemane Lion and a 4th copy of Hero's Downfall and/or Abzan Charm .
I like lion better than deathdealer because you have so much to do early game that you're not going to want to keep spending GB every turn to regenerate him in the early game. Fleecemane Lion is much better to have late-game since you give a one-time investment of 5 and it becomes near impossible to deal with for your opponent from then on out. He's also 1/1 bigger when he hits the board, which is relevant.
I think you need more downfall/charm because big things with trample/flying could just ruin your day otherwise. I would go for downfall first just because Stormbreath Dragon is immune to the charm and is going to be very relevant. Sorin is also just kinda meh here. He's better for decks that are trying to go wide with lots of little guys for him to buff up.
You may also want to consider Elspeth, Sun's Champion and or Garruk, Apex Predator if you'd rather have more threats than control. Both are very strong late-game bombs that you can protect quite well with your pillowfort tactics, that can pump out threats or take out opposing threats depending on what you need.
September 26, 2014 3:55 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #13
I agree with the Fleecemane Lion . You never want to slow your boardstate down by protecting one single creature. In my playtests I practically never used the regenerate. Now if you had Life's Legacy ... that's a different story.
September 26, 2014 4:36 p.m.
EvilKidsMeal says... #15
Femme_Fatale Skraz1265 I see your points. Alright, welcome to the club Fleecemane Lion
September 26, 2014 7:45 p.m.
PrimitiveGuy says... #16
I love this deck! When you get the time could you explain your sideboard and say what you would switch out for what. I find deciding what cards to replace with my sideboard one of the hardest things to do. I always feel like I am messing up the deck when I switch things around. Thanks and +1 from me!
September 27, 2014 1:57 a.m.
EvilKidsMeal says... #17
PrimitiveGuy Sure ill explain!
Im not so good with sideboards either, but i suppose im okay,
Athreos, God of Passage Is here to counter removal decks. This deck is creature based therefore needs them on the field to operate, so Athreos, God of Passage takes care of that
Back to Nature Is for annoying Waste Not decks, or a direct counter to Hardened Scales Its here to destroy the mechanics of other decks using enchantments as their engine so to speak
Gods Willing So many uses, protects from colors so if you need to get in that last bit of damage or they have a lot of fatties like this deck does, its a bypass.
Hornet Nest Goodbye Flyers! This deck has none so that takes care of decks that do have flying creatures.
Scourge of Skola Vale Can devastate others when fatties are in play, sacrifice Nyx-Fleece Ram right? Vale becomes a 7/7. Then Ajani, Mentor of Heroes +3/+3 sac another creature etc etc etc possible 20/ 20 creatures XD
September 27, 2014 2:19 a.m.
PrimitiveGuy says... #18
Thanks for taking the time to do that but I am going to ask one more favor. Could you explain what you would replace. What I mean is that I understand what you say when you say that Hornet Nest is there to help agents flyers but what would you take out if you were going to put it in. That's the part I find the hardest. Not knowing what to take out but still have my deck work the way I want it to work.
September 27, 2014 8:13 a.m.
PrimitiveGuy says... #19
I also wondered if you considered putting in Anafenza, the Foremost ?
September 27, 2014 8:33 a.m.
Because of the way Hornet Nest works, it's not a very reliable defense against fliers (mostly because it doesn't have reach itself). If they never attack with anything other than fliers, you don't get any tokens.
I would suggest Arbor Colossus instead. Solid card, high toughness to help with some of the other things in the deck, and can block those pesky Stormbreath Dragon 's and Butcher of the Horde for days. With Desecration Demon no longer a thing in standard, colossus can block any of the major fliers left without dying.
Anafenza, the Foremost is a really good option for the sideboard as well, but it really depends on how relevant graveyard shenanigans become. She shuts down Sidisi, Brood Tyrant completely, and has very strong stats.
All in all, it's a little hard to make a good sideboard when we don't know what the meta is going to be like yet.
September 27, 2014 2:18 p.m.
EvilKidsMeal says... #21
Skraz1265 I did have anafenza in the main board when this deck was first made but then it was taken to sideboard and then ultimately removed. You're right about the sideboard issue though cause I have no idea whats actually helpful against the current meta. As for Closseus he is good but im not sure ill get him off consistently. Ill playtest then consider cause the points you make about Hornet nest are true
September 27, 2014 3:13 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #22
Dredge and mardu midrange will definitely be in the meta EvilKidsMeal, so it will be a good card to use. Both have access to reanimation, and using Anafenza, the Foremost allows you to shut those down quite effectively.
September 27, 2014 4:27 p.m.
JakeHarlow says... #23
Great build! +1 for sure. Midrange will definitely dominate the format.
September 27, 2014 5:45 p.m.
RedChambers says... #24
Hey man, playtested your deck. Love it. My advice? Drop Hero's Downfall for Utter End. Utter End is less money right now and does more for 1 extra mana, and from my playtests that extra mana never mattered.
September 27, 2014 6:42 p.m.
EvilKidsMeal says... #25
RedChambers Im going to look into that right now!
rochdalekilla9 says... #1
My only concern with this deck is if you're playing against a deck with a lot of flyers. You don't have many answers to that. Hornet Nest and/or Hornet Queen , with the latter being costly though, could definitely help with that. Moreso the Hornet Nest .
September 24, 2014 9:44 a.m.