LILIANA’S EMBRACE - Self-Mill Reanimator [Ret.]

Standard* zAzen7977

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@zAzen7977 so are you going to add the nullpriest? It'd be nice to get an update/response to my feedback; I'm interested in the way in which you view it fitting in with the rest of the list/working with/in the strategy you've got set up.

September 17, 2020 9:43 a.m.

zAzen7977 says... #2

Hey channelfireball12345, thank you for your comments! Nullpriest of Oblivion is definitely an option for this build. It’s a good reanimation target for Inscription of Ruin and Lurrus of the Dream-Den. I’ve considered cutting Mire Tritons for the Nullpriests, but the Tritons provide deathtouch, immediate lifegain, and self-mill, and the self-mill is critical for this deck to function. I could also make room for the Nullpriests by swapping out some utility cards for it like Escape Velocity or Thrill of Possibility.

Another issue is that I’ve optimized the list for maximizing Call of the Death-Dweller, so I have chosen not to mainboard any creatures over 3 CMC. My only big creatures are Massacre Wurms on the sideboard, but that may change as I do more testing. The Nullpriest costs 6 mana when fully kicked, and I think this is prohibitively expensive in this build. From my experience, reaching 6 mana can be difficult unless the game goes long (my previous build didn’t run anything beyond 5 CMC), and I would rather run the Wurms or more Inscription of Ruin because of its versatility (being able to discard 2 is very useful to make Nighthawk Scavengers grow). Plus Liliana, Waker of the Dead’s ultimate is achievable and helps bring back creatures during the late game.

To make the Nullpriest more worthwhile from a cost/benefit analysis perspective, I would include it in a control deck running more expensive creatures, more lands, and more disruption so I could take advantage of its full potential. However, I am not dismissing the Nullpriest in this build quite yet. Lots of testing needs to be done.

And I agree about Gruesome Menagerie, that card was really interesting, but the Standard card pool made it difficult to utilize it effectively. When I had 5 mana available, I always wanted to play Doom Whisperer instead. Maybe it can find a place in Pioneer in a golgari build with lots of self mill and ramping, or something similar.

September 17, 2020 3:53 p.m.

Oh, now I see where you're coming from. Thanks for the explanation; in a CotDD-oriented build such as yours, I agree that more costly reanimation effects such as that of Nullpriest of Oblivion, however versatile they might be, tend to be less effective/relevant in the greater scheme of things. I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors piloting/tuning this deck.

September 17, 2020 4:59 p.m.

SultaivsAbzan says... #4

I wish it were 3 mana, but Kardur's Vicious Return is this entire deck idea in a saga.Check it out. Also we need Stitcher's Supplier to be reprinted.

January 29, 2021 6:13 p.m.

zAzen7977 says... #5

Thank you for the suggestion SultaivsAbzan! You are right, Kardur's Vicious Return does capture the entire concept of this deck in one saga. And yes, if only it was 3 mana, I believe it would be more playable. As it stands now I would rather play Liliana, Waker of the Dead at 4 mana. But it is still a possible inclusion.

I would be a very happy camper if Stitcher's Supplier was reprinted! It would take the current generation of standard self-mill/Reanimator decks to the next level.

January 31, 2021 8:14 p.m.

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