Lili's Revelation (Liliana Primer)
Commander / EDH
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130 upvotes —Nov. 23, 2015
Added Necropotence finally. Considering swapping Black Market for Graveborn Muse.
Considering adding Phyrexian Obliterator as it warps games. It needs to be dealt with. It's a pretty good threat.
Springfluter says... #2
Like this deck a lot! Woult you take a look at mine?
November 19, 2015 3:44 p.m.
Springfluter as a general rule, its often seen as poor form to simply link your deck without offering some semblance of advice. Just an FYI.
Still if you link you deck, ill do my best to help! It's why I'm here.
November 20, 2015 10:25 a.m.
Springfluter says... #5
I'm sorry. I didn't ment to be rude. But I habe no idea where to go with my Lili - all advices I would give to you can't be that good.
Some thoughts anyway:Necropotence exiles your discarded cards, no way to reanimate them.
I like to run way more card draw. Greed, Underworld Connections and Dark Prophecy ensure a full hand - love to have options.
Liliana's Caress and Sadistic Hypnotist might fit here too.
I hope these words are not that useless ;)
Thats my try to build a deck around her: Evil Dead
November 20, 2015 6:23 p.m.
I've tested Necropotence and it's insanely op. everyone that said it was worth running despite the nombo with liliana was certainly correct.
It's ridiculously powerful. i'll drop by and help at some point in the future.
November 21, 2015 2:08 a.m.
No, you haven't bugged me yet. Your Avg. CMC terrifies me a bit. It wouldn't be all that bad, but you've got a fairly low amount of dedicated mana accelerants. Yes, the potential of doubling 8 lands with Urborg + Ghast is great, but it does nothing until 10 or so turns into the game. I highly suggest you add roughly 4 or so CMC=2 rocks in order to diversify your ramp options.
My current suggestions to cut are:
Orbs of Warding. I don't think this cards is worth its heavy cost. The only two cards that are even remotely playable in EDH that target exile yards are Angel of Finality, Bojuka Bog, and Tormod's Crypt. At higher levels of play, those are all rather meh. It's far more common to see Relic of Progenitus, Rest in Peace, etc. I don't know what your meta is like, but those cards are rather meh. I think it might be better to just accept your weakness to yard hate and shave this card off. Also, this does nothing Vs. Blue Sun's Zenith combos unlike your description says. If I'm comboing off, I can kill all other players first, then target myself, draw my entire deck, find any card to deal with Orbs of Warding, draw the Zenith again, and kill you.
Black Market is great and all, but it might be too slow. My objection comes from how slowly it generates value.
Strands of Night is usually though of as a worse Phyrexian Reclamation. If you want reanimation, better cards exist. If you want recurring value, the reclamation is decent.
Dust Bowl. I read your thoughts on why you run this over more traditional removal options, but I doubt leaving up 4 mana simply to respond to something like Strip Mine isn't feasible enough where you could do it consistently, esp. early game.
I have plenty of other objections but I can tell you've included them for particular reasons. I hope that helps.
I also notice you've got very limited card draw options. I highly recommend getting some low-to-the-ground sorceries to draw stuff. Think Syphon Mind and Night's Whisper. Greed or Erebos, God of the Dead are also decent options.
November 21, 2015 1:14 p.m.
This deck is maliciously evil :D
Honestly, you're making me want to have a mono black commander!
November 21, 2015 3:50 p.m.
TheDevicer I haven't had mana issues as of yet, but I'll keep it in mind.
I'll might cut Orbs of Warding, my meta isn't super competitive, but Orbs has done pretty well.
And I completely disagree about Strands of Night. Strands puts them into play not hand AT INSTANT SPEED. The two cards are not comparable.
At this point, Dust Bowl over Strip Mine is just personal preference, and I enjoy the reusability that dust bowl offers.
I'm trying to add Bloodgift Demon for more cardbdraw, but with my tutors and Necropotence I'm not horriblely lacking in draw.
Ravolt glad you like it. It's my pride and joy. You could show your appreciation with an upvote :) hint hint nudge nudge.
November 21, 2015 4:31 p.m.
Got a Slum Reaper, which curves nicely with Liliana. Suggestions for cuts?
bah-bammmm says... #1
yeah that is very good with it.
November 15, 2015 8:26 p.m.