Lili's Revelation (Liliana Primer)

Commander / EDH CuteSnail

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Nef says... #4

Necrotic Ooze can be good or it can be just plain bad. Have to playtests proved it useful?

March 8, 2015 4:15 p.m.

Nef says... #10

Also, I'm assuming you thought of Animate Dead but decided against it? Is there any reason for that

March 8, 2015 4:21 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #12

Animate Dead is good but it make the creature go away if it does, it lowers their power, and I'd prefer a creature that can be reused to an enchantment that is dead after it's first use.

March 8, 2015 4:25 p.m.

Dreno33 says... #13

where's your Skullclamp? :(

This makes me sad...

March 8, 2015 5:33 p.m.

DeathChant17 says... #15

March 8, 2015 6:29 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #16

Dreno33 the deck used to be more discard focused so skullclamp was left out but since I changed the deck to sacrifice, I've added it.

DeathChant17 Good Idea. I picked one up yesterday and added it.

March 10, 2015 11:06 a.m.

lemmingllama says... #17

Do you really need all the mana doublers that come with Caged Sun and Gauntlet of Power? You could probably drop one without a significant issue.

Is Crypt Incursion in here to gain life, or to empty graveyards. If it's lifegain, instead consider using Sudden Spoiling. It protects you from big creature assaults, and you can kill their board with zombie tokens while you are at it. It also helps that they can't respond to it.

It might also be good to have more creatures that can kill things or otherwise flip Lili. You have ways of bringing them back, so it would be nice to control the board. Cards like Overseer of the Damned, Shadowborn Demon, and Merciless Executioner can cause some havoc.

March 10, 2015 12:47 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #18

lemmingllama thanks to the feedback. Whenever I build mono black it seems that the more mana I have the more likely I am to win. I've actual cut some ramp (Magus of the Coffers). I suppose I could cut one to add magus, and he's also a creature.

Crypt Incursion is to stop decks from gaining too much of an advantage from Lilli's discard. Plus I often face Death in Bloom so it kind of neuters that. The life is just a cool bonus that can be a combat trick.

I have a small pile of cards I want to add at home, but couldn't remember which ones. Overseer of the Damned and Merciless Executioner are in that pile. I just don't know what to remove.

Another problem is my curve is so high (4.23) Shadowborn Demon wouldn't help that but even ignoring that, his drawback is iffy.

Sorry to combat you suggestions so much.

March 10, 2015 1 p.m.

lemmingllama says... #19

No need to apologize. I've never played the deck, I just looked over it quickly and made some suggestions. I know that you know the deck better and know how it plays. I just try to give cards that could belong in here.

Instead of Crypt Incursion, maybe try out Nihil Spellbomb then. It cantrips and costs less, which could be beneficial. If you want to hit all graveyards, Relic of Progenitus is another option.

As for ramp, I almost want to suggest Heartless Summoning, since virtually none of your creatures would die to its effects. It might hit a couple of them pretty hard, like Grave Titan, but overall it could be effective. It's my pet card that I've loved since Innistrad, might not fit but always hilarious to use.

March 10, 2015 1:54 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #20

lemmingllama To be fair I asked you to take look and I'm being difficult.

Another allure of Crypt Incursion is it's an instant, so it takes people unaware. It's impossible to see coming. Although spellbomb can be used a second time with Beacon of Unrest...indecision.

I don't like relic because it bombs my own grave.

I'll play test Heartless Summoning. It was broke in standard with Perilous myr but I was never really a fan.

March 10, 2015 2:01 p.m.

Nick8383 says... #21

Heartless Summoning with zombie tokens, allows u 2 Skullclamp them for draw power

March 10, 2015 6:09 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #22

I've actually got a good amount of draw. But none the less I will test.

March 10, 2015 7:38 p.m.

HornetQueen says... #23

Nice deck man +1 :D

March 11, 2015 6:13 a.m.

CuteSnail says... #24

It plays really well except against control that can reanimate Duplicant...each turn. It was rough.

March 11, 2015 11:43 a.m.

ChiefBell says... #25

I think your removal suite could be upgraded. You lack things like Dismember that are quite important against various decks.

March 11, 2015 5:23 p.m.

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