Lili's Revelation (Liliana Primer)

Commander / EDH CuteSnail

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Depending on if he plays them, yes the PUR would go into effect.

December 3, 2015 7:48 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #2

Yep. PUR applies, so I have to be wary when I flip Lili. Overwise I'm smart about when I play Lilianas.

December 4, 2015 10:29 a.m.

CuteSnail says... #3

December 12, 2015 8:56 a.m.

CuteSnail says... #4

Do you guys think Phyrexian Crusader is worth the infect kill?

December 16, 2015 2:36 p.m.

enpc says... #5

Nah, its one of those things,where if you run infect, you have to either run enough that if one infect creature dies it hasn't pit you back go square one or you just run Blightsteel Colossus which is generally a 1 hit kill.

December 16, 2015 5:26 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #6

enpc my only thought is the sheer amount of times that I can reoccur it, I can fuck some shit up.

December 17, 2015 6:18 p.m.

enpc says... #7

Unless it eats a Swords to Plowshares. That would be super awkward :P

If you ran Hatred in the deck as well, I could see a lot more appeal. As it stands though, I still feel like it's a distraction more than anything else. Don't get me wrong, I really like the idea, I just don't know about the implementation .

At the end of the day, give it a go. If you don't like it, take it back out I guess.

December 17, 2015 6:29 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #8

enpc it's pro white...and I run Batterskull

December 17, 2015 6:36 p.m. Edited.

enpc says... #9

Pffft, reading cards. Who does that?

December 17, 2015 7:19 p.m.

enpc says... #10

Legit though, even with Batterskull it only gives you a 6/6 which isn't lethal in it's own right. And on top of that, Batterskull is 5 to equip. That being said though, you could probably try swapping something like Withered Wretch out for Crusader.

December 17, 2015 7:53 p.m.

MetalDivinity says... #11

Needs Basalt Monolith for Infinite mana to Exsanguinate.

December 18, 2015 2:21 a.m.

racc12364 says... #12

Why isn't contamination in this deck?

December 21, 2015 3:53 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #13

racc12364: While I did consider it in tge past, It crosses over into "I'm a dick" territory, and is unfun for me to play. I like to actually play magic, not just win.

December 21, 2015 4:14 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #14

Has anyone playtested Smothering Abomination? Thoughts on make a place for it here?

December 23, 2015 10:43 a.m.

enpc says... #15

Harvester of Souls seems better IMO. Forced draw is not good. Better off having control over it.

December 23, 2015 11:05 a.m.

CuteSnail says... #16

If that's the case, I'll test Grim Haruspex the 3 cmc is reanimated easier.

December 23, 2015 11:37 a.m.

Midwest says... #17

Miren, the Moaning Well is another sacrifice outlet that you can include in your land base. It does not facilitate turn 3 flips but it does flip Liliana later into the game while providing some amount of lifegain to cushion your weakness to aggro.

Diamond Valley costs a lot of money and I have no idea what your barrier on card price is. But it's a much better Miren with the downside that it doesn't tap for mana without help from Urborg.

Vampiric Tutor a 1 mana instant speed tutor should be pretty self-explanatory.

Diabolic Intent another copy of Demonic Tutor that helps you flip Liliana.

Mortuary Mire is a free reanimation spell on a black source.

What's your argument for not playing Massacre Wurm?

Bloodghast is a great card to feed into your sacrifice outlets so that you may flip your commander without actually losing anything. It's also very strong with Phyrexian Tower.

January 1, 2016 9:35 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #18

Midwest, Fist off, hello! Welcome to my deck.

Now to get your suggestions.

  • Miren, the Moaning Well was in here for a while, but as I added more nonbasics I need to maintain a certain level of Swamp to nonbasic ratio. Miren got the cut because the ability is expensive.
  • Secondly, I suppose I should state my budget in my primer. My budget is no card over $50 unless it's foil or a card I become infatuated with (it's been known to happen). Even if Diamond Valley was in my budget I probably wouldn't run it. The lack of would slow the deck down too much.
  • I'm considering Vampiric tutor, I just need to get one and find a card to cut. (I'm not cutting Liliana Vess)
  • Diabolic Intent is pretty good, but the fact that I have to have a creature to sac means there are a very few times when its a dead draw. (Albeit very infrequently). I do t know, I'm not really a fan.
  • Mortuary Mire is just a really bad Volrath's Stronghold. I actually cut the former for the latter.
  • Massacre Wurm is not in here because there's a deck in my meta that wins cloning it like 47 times. That and it's high saturated mana cost make it harder to cast.
  • Finally, I do intend to get a Bloodghast, but I have the same issue as with Vampiric Tutor.
  • Thanks for the comments BTW.

    January 2, 2016 10:09 a.m.

    CuteSnail says... #19

    Got Graveborn Muse, Burnished Hart, Sheoldred, Whispering One and testing out Languish.

    Set up a trade for a Damnation, and Polluted Delta.

    January 2, 2016 11:25 p.m. Edited.

    _SeriosSkies_ says... #20

    Hope the trade goes through, Damnation would be a sweet pick up. And grats!

    January 8, 2016 12:06 p.m.

    CuteSnail says... #21

    I actually traded it to this guy for the textless promo and a top.

    January 8, 2016 2:21 p.m.

    CuteSnail says... #22

    The trade went through, so I need to get Vampiric Tutor and this deck will match my paper copy.

    January 10, 2016 3:28 p.m.

    CuteSnail says... #23

    What do you guys think of Warping Wail?

    January 13, 2016 12:51 p.m.

    BrenoSulz says... #24

    Nice list! I want to build this commander for a while, I'll remember your list for sure!

    The Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Triskelion combo is working in your deck? I run it on my Grenzo's Heartstone Quest deck, but I think if fit better in my list due to my cmdr ability, but I can be wrong.

    Make some space for Reanimate, normally something big goes to the grave. You can tutor again with Sidisi, Undead Vizier and Rune-Scarred Demon or maybe win bringing back Gray Merchant of Asphodel.

    I notice you mentioned Waste Not in the description, but is not in the deck anymore. It dind't work the way you expected?

    January 13, 2016 1:02 p.m.

    CuteSnail says... #25

    Hey! Thanks for the comment BrenoSulz!

    Mike and trike is how I win most games. This deck generates a lot o mana by late game and with all my tutors I can pull pieces together with ease.

    I removed Waste Not because the only card that triggered it is Lili. It was great, but required set up and so I cut it for space concerns.

    January 13, 2016 2:19 p.m.

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