Lili's Revelation (Liliana Primer)

Commander / EDH CuteSnail

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enpc says... #1

Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed is the other main commander you could look into if you wanted. But personally I like Lili more.

February 10, 2016 11:40 p.m.

TheFoilAjani says... #2

Use Child of Alara or Progenitus as your command to mindf*ck everyone :3.

February 10, 2016 11:57 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #3

Updated the Primer. Also, I need to thank you chooch. Our...discussion yesterday really made me think about things. I attempted to address issues you brought up in my primer.

I hadn't looked through the primer in a while, so I hadn't realised, how poorly I conveyed my intentions with the deck. I hope the updates touches on each problem area. So I thank you for your outside perspective. If any issues or question persists, please vocalize them.

February 11, 2016 12:32 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #4

Also, in the vein, if there are any cards not mentioned in the primer that aren't obvious, please alter me. I want to make the deck's intentions clear. And that goes for anyone, if you have any questions about anything related to this deck, do ask. If you have a question, chances are, someone else might as well. Part of this Primer is to enlighten the less initiated with the deck type.

I should also note, cooch that the deck is expensive "intentionally" to be expensive, it's just good cards fetch a high price. Certain card are played in modern and the recent spikes have increased the decks price by almost a 1/3 of it's current price. I want the deck to be as efficient as possible and reanimator tends to looks like a "goodstuff" build. Good card are good, no matter what format.

February 11, 2016 12:39 p.m.

chooch says... #5

Hey, glad I could help in some way :D and no hard feelings. I had a bit of a tense day yesterday, and was probably a little spicier than usual when our exchange went down. I like the revisions you made too.

February 11, 2016 8:02 p.m.

Dredge4life says... #7

@NecroPony first off, I'm totally jealous. Wish I could go to an EDH FNM. Secondly, Mazirek, Marath and Nahiri all use tokens quite heavily, so why not Virulent Plague for shrinking them down to size? As a counter-point, you also haz no Grave Titan. Could I get an explanation why? Not arguing but curious. Hero's Downfall is a decent way to kill Planeswalkers. Scour from Existence kills Iona as well. Gate to Phyrexia kills the Nahiri player. Only ones I can think of at the moment but if I find anything else I'll give you a call.

February 16, 2016 4:18 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #8

Scour and downfall have both been removed for not doing enough for their mana costs. They were both 1 shot effects. As for Grave Titan I don't remember. In theory, he makes good sense, a 6/6 with deathtouch for 6 seems alright and then the zombies. Seems like a good reanimator target, but in actual playtests, he was lackluster. He was excellent filler, but doesn't really do a lot, I guess? I don't know. We'll see is sleep brings the answers.

In other news, I work this Friday, so no commander FNM.

February 16, 2016 11:29 p.m.

enpc says... #9

I keep saying you should put Nim Deathmantle in :P

And Grave Titan + Ashnod's Altar + deathmantle just gets silly...

February 16, 2016 11:40 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #10

My hang up is it costs so much. at the time of death is a ridiculous cost. I'll test it, but you need to find the spot enpc.

February 16, 2016 11:49 p.m.

enpc says... #11

Personally, I'd cut Phyrexian Obliterator. While he's cool, he's effectively just a 5/5 unblockable. And his cost makes him prohibitive (even in a mono black deck).

February 16, 2016 11:55 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #12

I had no problem casting this evening. Also, I don't swing with it, it's a perfect blocker. As such people tend to ignore it until they have an answer, and after they attempt to answer it and it ends up in my grave for one reason or another, I reanimate it and start the game anew.

February 17, 2016 12:03 a.m. Edited.

enpc says... #13

Then maybe cut Merciless Executioner as you already have Fleshbag Marauder. And you have a crap load of other sac effects already.

February 17, 2016 12:07 a.m.

CuteSnail says... #14

Alright. I'll test it. It doesn't guarantee it's going to stay in. In fact, I'm doubtful but hey, maybe I'll be surprised.

February 17, 2016 12:19 a.m.

enpc says... #15

That's fair. All I know is I have had a good history with it in my Saffi deck. To the point where people get nervous when I play it.

If you get a chance btw, I would be interested to see what you think of the deck: Just Stay Dead. The primer is horribly out of date (which I am slowly updating) and I'm still missing some fetchlands. But its still pretty damned fun to play.

February 17, 2016 12:33 a.m.

vulfy says... #16

maybe a Innocent Blood srry for no link, i forgot how.

March 1, 2016 10:42 a.m.

lemmingllama says... #17

@vulfy You just need to put two square brackets on either side of the card.

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March 1, 2016 10:48 a.m.

CuteSnail says... #18

I prefer my removal to be on creatures, so that they're reusable. The one use removal is harder to justify. That's why my only nonwrath, noncreature removal is Ashes to Ashes because it's a 2 for one. In any event, thank for taking a look and commenting! I appreciate it.

March 1, 2016 10:55 a.m.

vulfy says... #19

March 1, 2016 11 a.m.

Trtl says... #20

How can you run a mono-black deck and not run Life's Finale?

March 13, 2016 8:04 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #21

100% will be adding Behold the Beyond.

Link to bullshit tutor

March 17, 2016 10:04 p.m.

enpc says... #22

But you have to discard your hand, seems bad :P

March 17, 2016 10:07 p.m.

TheFoilAjani says... #23

enpc What about in a combo deck with a bunch of 2-3 cards combos, that could be hellbent anyway? Seems good.

March 17, 2016 10:10 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #24

enpc assuming you're serious, the discard is a worthy risrk for grabbing my combo pieces. Not to mention reaninator.

March 17, 2016 10:17 p.m.

enpc says... #25

You mean discarding your hand to tutor for 3 cards in a reanimator deck is a good play?

Sarcastic previous comment was sarcastic :P

March 17, 2016 10:18 p.m.

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