Was Sharuum hit super hard by the loss of partial-Paris?

Yep, she and Narset can't be accelerated out fast enough reliably and they are decks that have a bunch of clunky cards that don't belong in openers.

Basically every >4cmc commander that you plan on hard-casting (Food Chain doesn't count) to win the game was hurt by loss of partial paris.

ok my atraxa list should be fine until I figure out how writing primers work (why cant this be js and not css). Ill see if I can fix up azusa and start on sharuum to see if I can figure out how to work him back into t1. also for before the sweep, nominating baral for t2 until we can figure out 1: if hes better or worse than jace or 2: a different strategy is better. Do we have partner lists being started or should we wait until someone asks?

Keep up the good work all :)

Added a bunch of recommended decks. Keep the suggestions coming!

Leinahtan np dude i won't take your response in consideration since you act as if you are higher in the first place which is funny ;) was never implying it to be optimized for this level of this list just as a placeholder haha so i can get something going for him or her xPAfter some research i found this so it all good this might be an okay placeholder for now until somthing better shows up for multiplayer [[Primer v2.5]] - OM_RATH!!! (EMN Update!!!)

Also, added the new legendaries. I tried to be conservative on initial placement since so little work has been done on them yet. Baral, Chief of Compliance, Sram, Senior Edificer, and Rishkar, Peema Renegade were placed in tier 3. Yahenni, Undying Partisan and Hope of Ghirapur were placed in tier 4, and Kari Zev, Skyship Raider was placed in tier 5. They may later be moved up or down to better reflect their power level as they're explored.

oh nvm there is one added now atm !!!

thanks for that xxx disregard my previous message this will help him /her a lot

I did some more raiding:

Queen Marchesa

Jalira, Master Polymorphist

If you need a mono green omnath list here is mine.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/bring-out-the-gimp/

All the raiding!!!

Hanna, Ship's Navigator #1

Hanna, Ship's Navigator #2

Both seem decent. I don't feel like being the one to choose. I prefer to just gather the information.

A Sram deck that looks cool but would have an asterisk next to it as it is only theorycrafting

So I know that everyone is working to get Tier 3 lists up, but I have two lists that perform like Tier 3 lists even though both commanders are currently in Tier 4. To all whom it may concern, are these lists evidence of promoting their respective commanders?

Anything You Can Play, I Can Play Better (will be eventually turned into an Aikido primer)

Nahiri, the Lithomancer: Equipment EDH Primer (will be updated soon to include Sram, Senior Edificer, Armory Automaton, Inventors' Fair, and Aven Mindcensor)

So, I have a feldon list, it could use a bit of touching up and all but I'd be willing to do it.

I know we are all about optimization but I firmly believe things like Control of the Court and Goblin Lore are amazing in Feldon.

Before I bother tuning my list for representation here I guess I need to know if people agree on that front or if I'm gonna get laughed out the door for suggesting it.

Thoughts all?

The deck looks fine. Dumping random cards in your bin should be okay as long as you have already deployed enough mana. Competitive EDH players already run Gamble, so I don't see a problem with Draw-4s.

Alright, I'll tune it a bit more, currently it's built as a "big dumb dudes" deck and that could easily be changed.

Wondering if George should be added back in since, with a haste source, it turns your battlefield into AEtherling which could be useful to combat wipes and MLD. There is that nasty downside of spot removal tho... lol

I finished doing a write-up on the Arcanis list I posted earlier. I'd appreciate if you guys gave it a look to see if I missed anything. Thanks in advance.

why was Titania moved down to tier three?

Shes mono green, combat dependent, and much slower than most tier 2 generals. Also many new generals now exist that are strict upgrades to what used to be (Leo, gitrog, thrasios, breya, yidris and more to the point selvala, heart of the wild). All of these generals have occupied the top 2 tiers and many others (sidisi brood tyrant, Animar, Azami, etc) have gotten big power boosts lately. She just cant hang anymore. She was one of about 10 recent demotions. In cEDH if you aren't stronger because of a new set you just got worse. She hasnt gotten any great tech (except Eternal Scourge and she cannot tutor for food chain) for a while unless I am mistaken.

One assumes General Tazri is tier one for her food chain deck and not tribal applications?

@Stealthybiscuit Yes. Tazri Food Chain is probably one of the top 2 decks in the format alongside Doomsday Zur.

Tazri ally tribal would probably be tier 4.

correct. The only tribes that really are possible for cEDH as the best build are Wizards-azami, Goblins-Krenko, Elemental-omnath, elf-(any elfball commander), and Dragon-scion.

As a cEDH player I often peruse other people's decks and see what they're running compared to what I'm running etc. and I've noticed that an overwhelming number of people play Intuition (especially in a lot of the decks that this group features). I've had the card in my deck for a few months and it started out being a pretty decent tutor, but after some of the changes I've made it has become less playable. I'm aware that people generally use it to get 3 of the same effect or 3 combo pieces that will kill in any given scenario. The problem is Azami doesn't have 3 cards that kill with her in any given scenario and I find that it is generally a very situation dependent tutor (which generally just ends up getting 3 counterspells which is feelsbadman). Anyways, I digress, the main question I wanted to ask was, does anyone else feel the same way about this card or am I just going crazy? I know that certain commanders have more ways to abuse it such as The Mimeoplasm and others with better graveyard recursion or more combo pieces that have equal kill potential. I'd like to hear what other players who run this card think about it, cause I think I'm going to cut it.

@AzamiLadyofScrolls - If you take a look at the Arcanis deck I linked a few posts earlier, you'll notice I don't have it either. Part of it has to do with the deck relying primarily on artifact combos and thus being able to rely on more consistent tutors, and part of it is that it's rare for the deck to get in the type of no right answer situation that the card can present.

On the other hand, I also play Sedris Splinter Twin and Intuition is hands down the best tutor in the deck. It all depends on the situation. I do feel like people are a little too quick to include it in some builds occasionally.

I don't run it in my Azami but in my case what I could do is get paradox engine, the missing piece to dramatic scepter, MOM, or a piece of the Futuresight Helm Top combo. (Probably the combo to come out once engine is released.)

No matter what they pick it's likely I'm going off with it that turn.

That being said, I'm MUCH happier with Long-Term Plans. Any card, no reveal, just need to draw for it which is easy.

TheDevicer Yeah, I feel the same way about it. I saw your list and it was one of few that didn't run it, I just wanted to pitch this question to discussion just cause the card seemed to be in so many other decks that it felt like I was missing something.