_person_ - The list looks decent. Out of curiosity, why were things like Gush, Yawgmoth's Will, and Ad Nauseam not included? Also, you could shave the land count to incorporate Rituals to accelerate your kill speed.

Actually, Gush and Yawgmoth's Will were in the original build, but I found that I had little use for them. I might try ad nauseam, and also what rituals are you talking about?

Presumably Dark Ritual, Cabal Ritual, Culling the Weak etc.

Spent the last week or so tinkering with a Sidisi, Undead Vizier list. I tried to leave the deck with some varied paths to victory and some resilency, using Nooze combo as well as using Paradox Engine, Corpse Dance, and Isochron Scepter to give us some options for storm without needing to dedicate the list to it. Here is the decklist. I was wondering how it looked to the folks on the board here and how it looks like it should compare to the current list up for SUV in terms of speed, resiliency, and consistency.

Trtl: the deck already has Cabal Ritual and Dark Ritual, and it only runs 4 creatures, so Culling the Weak woudn't be very good.

_person_ - Well, I suck at looking at decklists :P I even went back to look again before posting and still managed to miss the two rituals. Maybe I was looking at the R's?

Other things to consider are Flusterstorm, Frantic Search, and Necropotence (and THIS time I KNOW these are not in the list). While Necro clashes a bit with your reanimator plan, it works well with your Doomsday plan.

Ok. I'll try to find something to cut so I can test those.

@NarejEDGood Afternoon! I noticed that for the Tier 3 listings we didn't have a deck for Saskia the Unyielding.

I am here to submit what I like to believe to be a competitive build for her, inspired from Legacy R/G Lands.

Blueless Lands

Commander / EDH RnG_Joker

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I know this deck could use some more work, and I would love feedback to make this an actual competitive deck using, what I believe, a really strong deck type from the Legacy format.

_person_: When your commander is a 2 drop creature you could go creature less and Culling the Weak would be a good include with ad nauseam.

Turn 1) Tutor for Ad naus/Culling the weak

Turn 2) Play 2 drop general

Turn 3) Culling the weak 2 drop general cast ad naus (counter disruption to ad naus with any 1 mana counterspell

Turn 4) Win with a hand of 20+ cards.

Getting 4 mana off a 1 mana spell is ridiculously good.

DarknutNoir, I gotta tell you, adding NOoze and Infernal Darkness is a ton of dead weight for what was already THE fastest combo deck in the format.

You also have a bit too high of a curve for a deck that tutors AdNaus every game. You don't need Diabolic Tutor, Infernal Darkness, Insidious Dreams, Beseech the Queen, or Snuff Out for instance, especially when all of your Animate Dead effects act like extra tutors on your combo turn.

I think Paradox Engine is good in Sidisi, as evidenced by my above posts, but over-focusing the deck around it is going to end up being a strict downgrade.

Also, did you notice I posted the same deck concept 10 comments above you? Sorry...

Lilbrudder:Ok, I didn't think about that. I'll try it.

RnG_Joker, Your deck seems like it would run fantastically in Duel Commander, but I'm not sure that the 1 for 1 removal and the highly specific combo will translate well into multiplayer, since you have very few cards that generate card advantage.

Also, if your deck isn't meant to win quickly, as you say in your description, then I'm concerned that you won't be able to keep people from combo-ing off in multi-player cEDH just by running taxing effects. You'll slow people down, but hard stax like Winter Orb has much more effective stopping power in this format against everything that's not storm.

Would you consider scrapping the lands combo? Sometimes things for other formats don't translate well into EDH, and since Saskia isn't really a build around commander in this format I feel like your best strategy would probably be to focus on sans-blue's tutor power, and make "blue-lite" version of a fast combo deck (like Scion-Hermit Druid, for instance), and replace the blue control cards with stax elements to disrupt your opponents.

40 lands also tends to really slow down decks in this format.

@sonnet666 I've been working on this list for about a week, like I said, and both our Tappedout decks were made about the same time: six days ago. Yes, you may have posted here first, but you don't own the use of Paradox engine. Regardless, as you said, it is very different from what you are trying to do.

Do you think ~2 is too high to use Ad Nauseum? Certainly it could be pared down a bit. As I said on the cEDH subreddit where I discussed this a little, this is based off my friend's deck, so there are some cards I kept in because they weren't bad enough to cut and I wasn't desperate for the deck slots, but certainly could go if need be (Beseech, Snuff Out, Dark Petition, to name a few).

The main reason I'm experimenting with Nooze is to give the deck a more favorable matchup against stax effects like Thorn of Amethyst and such. By adding Devourer and Nooze (Ballista is fine to run on its own since it's a wincon with infinite Mana, and we are already running a bunch of reanimates which helps), we have a route through heavy taxes. I also subbed in Engineered Explosives with some rainbow lands as protection against Rest in Peace and the like.

I've heard Sidisi suffers a lot against stax and interaction of any sort; I thought the diversity of win-cons with Nooze might help resolve that. Does Sidisi not suffer in that way at high levels of play?

Earlier versions of Gitrog actually incorporated Exsanguinate as the primary win condition, but it was later abandoned for doing far too little on its own. Much like how 5C Druid abandoned messy Saffi loops and Glory Rise packages for the superior current Nooze combo, Gitrog has improved beyond its early iterations.

Shouldn't Tier 2.5 be between Tier 3 and Tier 2 instead of between Tier 2 and Tier 1.5?

yes, this has been brought up before but it got forgotten (this thread goes off on tangents alot) It needs to get fixed (so basically I'm just seconding Boaner)

Could my Sydri deck be considered if I put in Timetwister and Mishras Workshop? (Don't own those cards irl and this list reflects my real life deck). I'd probably also take out Glacial Chasm too since it's not too great against competitive decks.

Sydri, Galvanic Genius EDH

Commander / EDH FrankTheFoot

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I believe that the strongest Roon of the Hidden Realm list is actually a reanimation deck like the one I have here: [Casual-Competitive] Roon, the BounceHouse Bouncer. Prison is an interesting way to play him, but Derevi is just a better prison commander, as shown by the tier list.

FrankTheFoot I might be biased since I built a list but I think that Sydri esper storm might be better. I'll link my list here and let the group compare. Not sure if mine is 100% optimized but I think it's pretty close.

Sadly there's no simple way to force Tappedout to display columns in the order that you want. It uses its own algorithms for category display. The issue of tier 2.5's misplacement has been brought up before, but no solution emerged.

Does it look different if the check box for automatic rearrangement is checked/unchecked?

Unchecking the Reorder button does sort them correctly, but it also puts tiers 4 and 5 together, leading to one excessively long column.

Unchecking the Reorder button does sort them correctly, but it also puts tiers 4 and 5 together, leading to one excessively long column.

I'm fine with that long column actually. What's everyone else's opinion?

I like how the RELEVANT commanders are now front and center when I navigate to the page. This new order kicks ass :P