Its an engine deck first and foremost since engine combos with Thrasios and top. Dramatic scepter is simply a great addition to engine. Bomberman isn't techincally needed, but I was already using LED due to it functioning like a black lotus most of the time so why not add salvagers, which also goes infinite with lotus petal and engine and recurs my rocks if I get blown out. The pod line is a recent addition, but it fits thematically and essentially functions like Doomsday in this deck. In short engine makes meh cards good and good cards great. It should not exist but I am glad it does.

Paradox Engine definitely seems like WotC designed it as a gift for the EDH crowd, alongside cards Panharmonicon.

It's been surprising so see how many homes Walking Ballista has found for itself as well. Every time I think that its price is ready to drop, someone finds a new deck to use it in and the price jumps back up a little. I'm currently tinkering with my Animar list to figure out the smoothest way to integrate the Ballista into the deck as a win condition.

SaberTech: If you wanted a slightly different build of Thrasios that combines all the good stuff, then get some eggs in ya! Green Eggs and Ham (I need to find space for a few pieces still).

enpc: So I know how 60 card Eggs decks worked prior to Second Sunrise being banned, but I'm not read up on how they work in EDH. Is it a Bomberman variation with Auriok Salvagers at its core to bring back LED and other 1 cost artifacts for infinite mana and card draw?

If you produced infinite colored mana with king hippo you could technically deck every opponent with the blue ability, but to do so would give them tons of opportunities to dirupt your combo even if they are tapped out. That is unless you load up on effects that prevent casting on your turn.

Basically you're using Krark-Clan Ironworks + your rocks + Second Sunrise / Open the Vaults + Codex Shredder to generate infinite mana. From here you can use Thrasios to draw your deck. While the eggs combo itself needs a lot of pieces, there's overlapp with the bomberman combo, they work with Paradox Scepter combo package and there's interaction with Thopter Foundry + Sword of the Meek (which goes infinite with the addition of Ironworks) which in turn has good synergy with Tymna.

Lilbrudder: The card draw is a may. You'd be better off just running a Suture Priest and them giving them infinite dudes. Also works well with Forbidden Orchard.

enpc: I like how the decks that you and Lilbrudder have been posting have so many interconnecting combos and can change their plan of attack in the face of disruption. The Eggs lists could even mill opponents out with Codex Shredder and Engine combos if they needed to. I tend to get bored of decks that play in a linear fashion and try to win the exact same way each game.

SaberTech: yeah, I always try and incorporate some level of redundancy into every piece of a combo in any deck I build (well, competitive ones at least). The idea of having a single point of failure that makes a deck completely fall apart seems short sighted to me. But at the same time, as you said, you need the combos to overlap otherwise it's just as bad.

That's why I like ashnods combos for Breya. Each piece works with other pieces for the most part though some take a bit of creativity.

For mana you have:
Mana Echoes
Ashnod's Altar
Krark-Clan Ironworks
Grand Architect
Palinchron

For outlets you have:
Eldrazi Displacer
Nim Deathmantle
Deadeye Navigator

Since my version is meant to be a little more casual I run anything that makes 2 artifact creatures, this includes anything from Maverick Thopterist to Marionette Master.

When I build EDH combo decks I have this personal criteria that I try to follow that I call the Sadistic Sacrament Rule. Basically, it's a thought experiment that goes, "If an opponent was able to take any three cards they wanted out of my deck, do I still have a game plan?" It's a criteria that can occasionally run counter to optimization, but it tends to work out for me. The more redundancy and synergy I can build into the deck, the better. Decks with very linear game plans don't work for me; my horrible luck means that I tend to draw the worst starting hands and top-decks imaginable, so those decks usually fall apart and under-perform when I pilot them.

The Sidisi Brood Tyrant list you have there has apperently been updated A Banquet Fit For A Tyrant: Food Chain SBT Primerto a different more food chain oriented deck, if it is better or not is up to you I guess

The Sidisi Brood Tyrant list you have there has apperently been updated A Banquet Fit For A Tyrant: Food Chain SBT Primerto a different more food chain oriented deck, if it is better or not is up to you I guess

The Sidisi Brood Tyrant list you have there has apperently been updated A Banquet Fit For A Tyrant: Food Chain SBT Primerto a different more food chain oriented deck, if it is better or not is up to you I guess

The Sidisi Brood Tyrant list you have there has apperently been updated A Banquet Fit For A Tyrant: Food Chain SBT Primerto a different more food chain oriented deck, if it is better or not is up to you I guess

Lol, a quadruple post. That's a new one.

Where is Hakim, Loreweaver on that list?

mini_fan He's right there in Tier 5.

Human_Wizard, oh.. Well, he could do better.

Brassmoose I am opposed to switching the sidisi list, While the addition of three different wincons helped food chain sidisi alot, they all circle around Dread Return, meaning if it gets exiled you lose, this, plus white just makes Tazri a better sidisi.
the current list, on the other hand, trades a little bit of consistency for a variety of different angles of attack, allowing for quick wins and the ability to adjust to various stax effects.

ajacobik I am against bumping Erebos, I feel the list simply does not have enough stax and answers to even make it to the midgame, the decklist is good though and I wouldn't be opposed to making that the example T3 list

chaosumbreon87 I'm against Phaldagriff, cute and funny but I can't see it becoming competitive

Lilbrudder yah, shapersavant could probably be tier 2.5, just wish the list was a little more optimized, all the same I'm in favor.

Trtl on the Dralnu submission, Lilbrudder left a comment on the deck page that pretty much sums it up.

Sorry, I've been meaning to post my thoughts on all these lits, finally got around to it

still looking for thoughts on Kokusho, I've added the liches, more testing will see if they stay but they're undeniably powerful

Lilbrudder, Gates88, re: Breya Tier 1? Sorry I'm a few days late on this...

But, yeah, I dunno, Breya feels at times like a Tier 1 deck, at times like Tier 1.5. I think you're right that essentially any deck w/o green can't be as fast as a deck w/green, since there's just so many more turn-1 accellerants available to green. Also, the Breya combos are a little fragile; so I always want to go off with protection. These two points have lead me toward a "protected combo deck," where I run a few roadblocks for other decks (like pyroclasm or ethersworn canonist) and a lot of cheap interaction. The goal is usually to stop the first player's combo, kill all the mana elves, and then assemble a combo on turn 5 that's well-protected. Is it tier-1? Maybe, it compares well against Karador, Tazri and Teferi which are played heavily in my meta; it still seems worse than Zur; is it better than Thrasios? IDK, haven't seen the paradox engine version, and that hermit druid build looks... fragile?

Recently changed my username, I would appreciate it if NarejED or thegigibeast could change my username in the description from AzamiLadyofScrolls to Human_Wizard.

mmcgeach: I agree with everything you said about Breya. She is so close to that top tier and a favorable printing will likely get her there. I love her tutor density, removal options, and the mana efficiency of her combos. She has alot of potential to grow in power level.

Brassmoose: I requested a change over a while ago but it is no biggie. Both decks offer something different and you can easily view the FC one from the main primer, but I really should restore the one listed to its pre Walking Ballista state so the deck is functional.

Dunadain: I go back and forth about Sidisi and her strongest build but I think the focused nature of one primary combo helps free up more slots, which sidisi badly needs and was the downfall of the combo blitzkrieg approach. I must point out that the food chain combo is somewhat more robust than many people are claiming. Once we get food chain to hand I can fairly consistently use tainted pact/demonic consultation/plunge into darkness to get an outlet to hand too and misthollow griffin/eternal scourge to exile. The deck also does not autofold to Dread Return being countered. If we have Eternal Witness in hand that will also get us there and we always have the memory's journey fallback plan if one desires additional protection than my build is using. Also with the labman tainted pact/demonic consultation combo we have an alternative path to victory if food chain is a nobo and we have the wheel+notion thief shenanighans to proactively protect both combos. In short, its not a one trick pony even if its clearly worse than Tazri. As for your build ill give it a look and offer what assistance I can.

@Human_Wizard: Your name has been updated. I miss the old one already. :(

NarejED Haha sorry. I want to branch out and build other decks, so I figured I'd rename my account. My next build is gonna be my own take on Zur Ad Naus Doomsday. It's okay though cause I still own the AzamiLadyofScrolls account.