ItsRuben: while I personally would love for Saffi to move into Tier 2, I think 2.5 is fine for her. She can be very fast yes, but she is not consistent enough for tier 2.

The other thing is that while technically you may be able to combo off turn 2, realistically this will not happen. Turn 4-5 is the most realistic point at which a Saffi deck becomes lethal.

So I know some of you have already seen it, but here is my list for Competitive Seton.

I think it got lost in the discussion of new cards, but I made what I think is an optimized doomsday deck for the UB Taigam general as we do not currently have a list for him. I believe he deserves higher than his current t3 ranking. Any critique is welcome.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ub-taigam-test-deck/

It has more redundancy in card draw and focuses more on going infinite quickly due to a streamlined card selection not including cards that have too low an impact with untapping during other turns and phases, such as Quest for Renewal. It also got rid of some low impact cards in the deck such as Yisan, the Wanderer Bard. Finally, more removal for Linvala, Keeper of Silence with cards such as Mouth of Ronom.

If you want I can show you the full change list but I don't want to take to much space up here.

thegigibeast I'd like to submit my deck for tier 3 Karn (I have a detailed primer included). The deck is as competitive as possible with colourless and reliably wins turns 4-5 in a tier 1-2 environment.

Plus my Daft Punk Karn alter is pretty cool :)

Karn - The Joy of Colourless (Competitive Rebuild)

Commander / EDH gossipmeng

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thegigibeast Same here. Id like to have this list reviewed for Taigam, Sidisi's Hand. I believe he deserves a little better than t3, and as we dont have a list, I threw one together.

If the list is acceptable, I can rename it.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ub-taigam-test-deck/

Titania, Protector of Argoth Deck

Can someone please update the list given in the description? It hurts to see a "competitive" list that has so many do nothing cards. Also I believe that she should be T2 or T2.5

palmerb2:

"It hurts to see a "competitive" list that has so many do nothing cards."

*Posts list with Kozilek, Butcher of Truth, Terastodon, Nissa, Vastwood Seer  ^Flip, Greenwarden of Murasa, Courser of Kruphix, Avenger of Zendikar, Acidic Slime!!!, Smokestack, Berserk, Natural Affinity, Dark Depths, and 35 lands.

Also no Mana Crypt or Sol Ring.

Really dude? REALLY? I agree the deck I made needs work, but you could at least try to know what you're talking about.

kyuuri117, gossipmeng: I'm looking at both your decks to put up in my next mini-update. Some others as well.

sonnet666

The list isnt 100%, nor did I claim it to be, but the list provided in description isn't even really viable.lets go over cards you listed.

Kozilek, Butcher of Truth You dont actually cast this guy, he is in there for the shuffle effect (typically discarded though combo's)

Terastodon Agreed with this one. It was in here for the plays to plow up your own lands and/or blowing up problematic lands (not so much) will be cut

Nissa, Vastwood Seer  ^Flip Agreed. Probably will be replaced with a rock of some sort

Greenwarden of Murasa double E-wit. once your going off, who cares about the cost of this guy, your drawing through your deck anyway, and can get back a combo piece if broken. Is cuttable.

Courser of Kruphix Bad, agreed

Avenger of Zendikar With as many land drops as the deck makes in any given turn, the tokens can get big and be sac'd through greater good or be fodder. Also works with craterhoof

Acidic Slime Personal meta card. Was a Hall of Gemstone

Smokestack getting down early can just win games. deck plays through it easily.

Berserk Personal meta card. Cuttable

Natural Affinity Personal favorite card. Cuttable for mana rock.

Dark Depths just cause of Thespian's Stage

Its a land deck at the end of the day, while typically I would agree 35 lands is too much, this deck can filter and eat through them quickly. It does need adjustments, dont get me wrong. I wasn't trying to sound like a jerk, but if your going to provide decklists for people, at least make them a little viable in a slightly competitive setting. This is one of the more looked at Cedh lists, and providing a sub-par list for people to look at doesnt help players transition from casual to competitive.

Hey, so I recently brewed a stax deck with Silas Renn, Seeker Adept and Tymna the Weaver at commander. With basicly no decks online to start with I based it off a ton of more popular stax decks like blood pod and various Glissa, Augustin, Zur and Oloro stax/control builds. I think I have it in a pretty good place though time has been short for me lately so testing it has been difficult. I have been told artifact decks aren't in the best place at the moment but I believe the deck is actually pretty strong and would like to submit it for your opinions as to how viable it is and what tier it would belong in. Thanks!

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Hello Everyone , I was wondering if anyone can update the Decklist For Sharuum the Hegemon. The list has not been updated for over a year now and I have been curious on what changes can be made to the deck to make it better.

hadakou, Honestly I'm not sure we should or can. That Sharuum deck is pretty great.

The biggest things Artifact Combo has gotten recently are Paradox Combo, Dramatic Scepter, and Walking Ballista as an outlet, and none of those really improve what Sharuum was doing already.

fair enough, I was just thinking about it since it has been a while since the deck was updated and was hoping there was some cards to at least make a slight improvement to the deck overall. Seeing cards like scrap trawler, whir of invention , and inventors fair gave me some hope lol.

Hey Everyone, I was noticing that Xenagos, God of Revels didn't have a decklist and I wanted to submit mine to represent aggro in multiplayer (and possibly end up on the deck lists). So I present to you:

Revel! Competitive

Fair enough , whir is pretty costly .

Isn't Yisan banned?

LurkerInTheBush - This is a list for multiplayer EDH, not 1v1 EDH, which is why Yisan, Zur, Edric, etc. are here.

Thanks.That makes a lot more sense.

irisfibers, I actually had that one covered already. I don't know why I never put it up:

Optimized Xenagos

Commander / EDH* sonnet666

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As for your list... What's with all the french vanilla creatures? To me at least, nothing really screams "not cEDH" than stuff like Carnage Tyrantand Charging Tuskodon.

sonnet666 (Regarding my Karn deck being featured in the next update) Fantastic - thanks!

@sonnet666

Your optimized Xenagos is actually a really interesting deck. I honestly hadn't really ever though of doing the whole infinite combat phases with it for multiplayer (not sure why cause it seems super obvious now). I have a Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder deck that does exactly what your Xenagos does. Out of curiosity, do you actually own the full deck or is it just theoretical (the mana base is beautiful, that's why I ask)?

Just to say it, my build was originally a duel commander deck and I have been modifying it as a multiplayer deck to play against some of the higher tier stuff in my playgroup. It completely smashes in duel (turn 4/5 every game unless it's slowed down), especially since they changed the life total to 20. That's why all the anti-control stuff (Tyrant) is in there cause you're fighting stuff like Baral polymorph. Tuskodon is basically a finisher in Duel as well which is why it's still in there (a couple of early game points of damage with your elves and that's all you need). I recognize the deck needs a bit more "damage everyone" cards but even still it holds up really well as a multiplayer deck. But I hadn't ever considered Heartless Hidetsugu (that's definitely on my add list) and had forgotten about Chandra's Ignition so those are going into it.

I see there's no list for Ramos, so I'll provide mine to fill the empty slot:

The Incredible, Undisruptable Hulk

Commander / EDH Winterblast

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Using Ramos as a backup in staxed out games feels a lot better than any weird clunky attempts of using him in a storm build I've seen so far. At first glance red looks cuttable, but going 5c opens up strategies and overlapping combos that are different from what sans red or sans blue decks would do. I've played it a lot online and in real life (luckily I actually own everything in the list) and I'm pretty much statisfied with the results so far. I would place the build in the adaptive combo category next to hulkweaver and razakats.

Question: So is it Taboo to suggest one of your own decklists for the Tier List?

spottedmink: No, it's just taboo to post stuff like "Hurr Durr, commander XYZ should be tier 1, I run it in my casual playgroup and win at least some games with it, check out my full sick link which runs no ramp, card advantage or a valid win conditon".

After all, people who actually play the decks are going to have a good idea of how they fare.