I mean, the real question is how it stacks up to Tier 3. It probably belongs there, but there the deck power inconsistency in every tier other than Tier 1 makes it hard to evaluate.

sonnet666 a while back someone was advocating for rashmi to be moved up a half tier, any chance of that happening?

No, Rashmi hardly belongs in Tier 2.

I've been piloting this momir vig list to some sucess and felt it may at least be a equally good alternative to the foodchain list linked above. So please check it out and give me your opinions momir vig, Simic elfball

Is there anything like this for budget decks? Just wanted some tips on one of mine and didn't know where to go.

Juanturnkill: becuase budget is such a sliding scale, having a budget version of each list is tricky. For some, a budget deck might be $600 whereas for others it might be $75.

If you want specific deck help, you're better off going to the non-budget version of the deck listed here and then asking about budget options that way.

enpc thanks, thats what I was thinking but wanted to check.

Hey I know I just posted and sorry about the mini spam but I just made this decklist and I think it actually may be a solid tier 3 deck. It struggles with consistency but if it gets going it can't be stopped. And I know people generally may overstate how effective their commander is but he is currently in Tier 5 and I honestly don't think he should be there. That's the main reason I made the list, Munda deserves so much more (aka at least tier 4, if not tier 3). Without further ado here it is: Munda Paradoxical Ally Storm. Help would be nice, but also if you don't move him to tier 3 that's fine by me, just thought it should be considered.

Just played against a Malfegor deck and it's not bad. Tier 4 worthy. I don't think he be longs in tier 5 with cards like Marhault Elsdragon

I know this is partially against the rules but I realized there's no list for Sen Triplets. While mine is quite similar to standard DD lists, most DD lists are pretty similar regardless. I made the deck as an Esper Thrasios, Triton Hero and I just don't really like Zur. Triplets of Doomsday is the list. If it's too similar to other DD lists or my comment is deleted for technically advertising my own deck that's fine.

That's not against the rules. That rule is for people arguing a commander should be moved up because of their personal experience with it. As for advertising, so long as you're submitting a list to put up in the description it's fine. We just don't want people posting decks to get advice or just attention.

You're decklist looks very good and there hasn't been much interest in Sen Triplets lately. I think I can probably put it up.

sonnet666 oh, thanks so much :D Can you tag me when/if it's added and if she moves up at all? :)

sonnet666 fun fact: You can use underscores in tags to put spaces. for example: 1x General Tazri #Tier_1 will appear under "Tier1"

westerhack, Yes... I heard you the first time.

What you're overlooking is that there are 715 items on this list, and I'd have to add an underscore to the tag after each of them to make spaces. Do you want to do that? Because I don't want to do that.

InB4, "But if if you give a tag to 1996 World Champion then all the items in a catagory would be stacked under one hashtag and you'd only have to make 9 edits!" Yeah... and then the process for moving any commander around goes from editing 1 number to trying to scroll through a 700 item list to find where it goes. No thanks.

inb4 copy the commanders to a wordpad file and find and replace to get em all for you then copy them back

inb4 I still have editing powers and I still am alive so I did it ;)

Here is a submission for Kraum

This is based of another Deck HE-MAN, which has done very well in competitive pods and this is likely stronger than the sans red version since it has access to better creature and rocks wipes and the red counters provide excellent protection to the primary wincon (ad naus angels grace). Kraum is very good in this deck and I also suggest he gets moved up to tier 2 as he is stronger than the majority of generals in that tier.

Lilbrudder that list is pretty sweet actually. Will have to follow it as you build on it.

So, alongside my Sen Triplets list I submitted on the 25th, I also have a Riku list right here -> Riku Brainstorm
I know I'm up against a Shaper list but it's a bit old and doesn't seem optimal.
I think 2.5 is still a fair spot for ol Riku but in a meta that's not you and 3 tier 1 decks I think this deck actually wouldn't perform too poorly.
It's basically Temur storm. It loses a lot of consistency and power from not having black, but on the positive side:
- Your counterspells can become mini flusterstorms
- You can copy an early Guttersnipe for 4 damage per inst/sorc (amazing vs AdNaus decks)
- Can copy storm spells if you're not on infinite mana and need that little bit extra
- Can copy E Witness/Snap/Recruiter for extra ETB's
- Can copy LabMan to protect vs spot removal
That's really all I have to say about the list, it's still somewhat of a work in progress but if you were to upgrade the tier list tomorrow I don't wanna miss out when the deck just needs some small tweaks.

Sidenote for my Sen list: While it's definitely worse than Necropo- I mean Zur, it's still great in a grindy game when you need to cast your commander as that plan C, especially with something like Telepathy on board. It's also amazing vs other UBx storm decks (or UB decks in general) because you can cast their cantrips/tutors/whatever and that not only gives you a large advantage but also really sets them behind depending how powerful the spell is that you stole and can even win you the game if there's something like Doomsday/AdNaus/Yawgwill in their hand that they weren't able/in a good enough position to cast last turn (maybe you ramped better but a different player at the table set you back or something)
I personally believe they're a very good candidate for Tier 2 with this list or 2.5 at the very least.

I don't see Elenda, The Dusk Rose on the list

I see that Saskia the Unyielding needs a deck list. I have a couple on my profile, but one is specifically for Duel Commander. Here is the list I run currently that has had some great success in my playgroup:

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/01-03-18-falcon-punch/

I am also welcome to criticisms on the deck as I always want to improve it. To put it in perspective, my other Commander deck is a modified Derevi list from this tier list.

Rather, NarejED's old Derevi list.

BackFlipBoi not all commanders have optimized lists in the description list but Elenda is down in tier 3.

So question: un cards are no longer allowed in edh right?

Fat_Tone not to be "that guy", but could you perhaps make a non-budget list? It seems that your current list is lacking a lot of cEDH stable ramp (such as Mana Crypt) and runs some rather questionable creatures (such as Pelakka Wurm). I would consider cutting some of the very mana intensive cards and include some of the stable tutors, such as survival. I haven't brewed Saskia but perhaps there is a more easy route to kill the table, such as infect. Sonnet have a Xenagos deck on the tier list that might serve as inspiration.