We are now talking about another Planeswalker to achieve the combo... It is gonna be difficult to get it online... Too janky for cEDH. Might be fun for casual superfriends decks tho!

I've been trying to make a Flash deck with both Protean Hulk and Academy Rector.. like a cross between 5 color omni and 5 color protean decks.

This adds a whole new element with many different lines!

Krenko, Mob Boss seems really fast and has very consistent turn 5 kills. What makes it tier 3 and not 2? Just curious

It's because turn 5 is relatively slow, even if it's consistent. AND reliant on Krenko.

More official spoilers:

T5 alone or together.

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Official:

Probably T4 at best.

Unofficial:

Some UR partners that will likely be <=T4

Well, I don't know why, but I feel like there is something possible with Grothama...

For sure, in casual EDH it would be easy for opponents to get rid of this monster and draw a bunch of cards, but in cEDH, decks have smaller creatures, and usually want to keep their creatures for the utility (i.e. dorks and hatebears). So it is less likely to be destroyed by an opponent with their creatures, except if they are ready to get rid of about half their board, which I am not sure they want to.

Now, I am by no means saying this big green wurm deserves a place higher than T4, but I am pretty sure there COULD be a way to break it. First of all, it is on a LTB trigger that the cards are drawn, so it does not matter if he gets exiled, destroyed, bounced...

I feel like this could be abused with something like Temur Sabertooth in some ways...

It could also be way better in the 99 than as a commander. I don't really know, but playable in Selvala, Heart of the Wilds?

That sounds decent, possible card draw that nets 5 mana.

I am not sure if it will make the cut, but it is worth testing at least in Selvala? Cause it is not your regular vanilla fatty; it can become a backup plan to draw a lot of cards by simply going to combat -> swing with some fatties -> draw a bunch of cards -> do something main phase 2.

I don't know if it will be good enough cause I never played the Selvala deck; this simply is a thought and we would need to ask tw0handt0uch or asm about it. Tagging them here, who knows.

We were talking about this card in the Selvala discord. I really think its a cool design. In a full-power, no-budget meta its not going to make the cut. Selvala really wants to be able to cast a fatty, immediately activate Selvala, and power out a win with the ritual mana. To do that with this guy you would need 5 to play + 1 to activate Selvala. The conditional draw is interesting but as you mentioned, you would need another fatty in play to ram into this wurm. If you have that fatty in place, you are probably good to go and drawing off the wurm is just win-more.

There are a couple of slightly modified Selvala decks (the so-called Slowvala) that are only like 4-5 cards off the standard ratios. We may try it in those version over something like Ulamog or Regal Force. It’s a really fun card but Comp EDH is a turn 3 format now so the cards have to filtered through a vintage/legacy lens.

Don't forget: food chain Ghalta is a totally doable thing. And if you chain into wurmulon, swinging with Ghalta draws you 12 cards. FAR more than you need.

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Goes infinite with Druids' Repository, Sword of Feast and Famine, and Bear Umbra, so T3 may be possible, but will likely be relegated to T4

What you talking about, merrowMania this is just general Tazri 2, eletric boogaloo.

Tazri is tier bc she's a wincon tutor in the command zone and half the wincon. Najeela does neither. She's essentially a fair Tazri.

Now that they have been officially spoiled:

As I vaguely mentioned before, I think they are T4 together (thanks to Frenetic Efreet and Frenetic Sliver) and T5 alone. I can't really think of any justification to put them higher, but I could be missing something.

Krark's Thumb plus a Mana Crypt synergy, Fiery Gambit and extra combat spells. Also Game of Chaos

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So Najeela is basically going to be in the really strong in casual camp and just another low tier 5 color commander that your using mainly for their color identity?

I'm not trying to promote my own deck, however I feel that Ghalta, Primal Hunger should be placed higher on the list than where it is now. I understand that an aggro strategy can be frail, but the numerous draw affects that are based on the power of a creature are usually enough to keep the deck from falling under. Based on the tier descriptions I feel that a decent build of this deck belongs more in tier three than in tier four. Again, not trying to promote my own deck, but my build seems fairly consistent and that it would belong in a higher tier, thanks.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/28-01-18-zOc-ghalta/?cb=1527301629

The problem is that combat damage is not a good wincon at all in cEDH. You would have to connect 6 times to win, and that places it around at least turn 8. That's not taking into consideration removal or counterspells. Far too slow.

I understand that, however there are numerous ways to buff damage and kill multiple players in a turn, overwhelming stampede, triumph of the hordes, berserk, grafted exoskeleton, ibex pathbreaker, and hedron matrix all make Ghalta only need to connect one time to win, and that doesn't include the othee creatures that would be in play.

That's still at a minimum turn 5. For many cEDH decks turn 5 is a maximum.

thegigibeastsonnet666NarejED I just wanted to inform you that my example list for Ramos is Najeela, the Blade-Blossom now. I have made the change because with some very simple swaps (Derevi > Deceiver exarch, bloom tender > priest of titania, adding druid's repository...) I was able to leave the overlapping Hulk and Birthing Pod lines untouched and still have a smooth alternative win con with Najeela by making infinite combat phases. Najeela also provides a starting point for the pod combo in the command zone and the tokens she produces aren't bad either, make the requirements for Razaketh even easier to achieve than before.

I haven't played the deck with the new commander yet (obviously) but the new win con without having to change the rest of the deck makes it even more resilient. Ramos with my build is currently in tier 2, so adding a commander that actualy DOES something and even has 1 card combos as backup plan might deserve a bump up to tier 1.5

I'm sure people will try to fuck around with the combat focused builds but I think that the untap combo of Najeela fits a lot better as a backup instead of plan A, also because it requires almost no slots in the deck and runs on cards that are already there.

Update: xmage has already implemented the battlebond cards and so I could already get some games with Najeela. deck runs smooth as always, one t2 hulk kill and two mid/late game pod combo wins...Najeela only hopped into play once but then she was useful. Derevi also feels like an upgrade. On a side note, Spellseeker is really a great card, whether as simple tutor or in pod and hulk lines. I'm not focusing on it as a vital combo piece but it enables lots of creative lines when the situation demands it.

Thanks for the input Winterblast. We will have to review, but I am with you on that: people will try to force Najeela into a combat, untap combo, while the combo is pretty meh, and should only be used as a backup. I don't have time right now, but will have to look at your list again. Thnks for your creative input ;)