This is just as a question but could someone give some insight as to the direction you would go for maximising brudiclad for cedh. He can technically win the game off of breath of fury or a token combat celebrant, but getting there quickly with the blue red tutor package seems far fetched. I was thinking of using him as a trashy keranos esque stax list, gumming up the board to a near hard lock then going for celebrant or mechanized production win. Any better ideas.

I miss my dude Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord on the list. I reckon he's High Power-ish?

DangoDaikazoku not my Ayli list but i'm pretty sure the owner won't mind and more or less similar with mines. sorry i was in transit and supposed to follow up with this list but totally forget about it.

just read the criteria of each power levels and this list (or a streamlined variant) should be at least in High Power if not competitive as Sidisi or Razz are still the AdNaus commander of choice due to the inbuilt tutor. but this list have protection in the form of Silence, Grand Arbiter, and the Angel's Grace spells that gives it more resillience than a disrupted AdNaus turn in a mono black deck.

thanks mate.

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/aylis-death-and-friendship-1/

Hey! How do I submit a deck list for a commander with no list?

Here is my list to try and move Sydri, Galvanic Genius to competitive from high power.
Sydri Combo Cannon (Primer)

chopsueyrice - Ayli will remain at Mid Power. She doesn't provide anything significant for the Turbo Ad Nauseam archetype that other commanders don't. Even in her own colours, Ghost Council of Orzhova is the more optimal choice, as it serves as a Command Zone outlet for the Auriok Salvagers + Lion's Eye Diamond combo.

Hotcake_Gotsyrup - Radha is lower than Ruric Thar because Sphere effects as a whole have lost a lot of relevance since the unbanning of Protean Hulk. In a similar vein, setting up some form of lock is not really viable anymore, and Ruric Thar has the significant upside of being able to consistently end games much quicker than Radha can. Neither is amazing right now, but for RG big mana + stax decks, Ruric Thar is currently the better option.

HezTheGod - Godo will remain in High Power. It's a glass cannon deck with much worse options for recovery than something like Sidisi Ad Nauseam or Selvala Brostorm. Arjun is worse than Mizzix, which is worse than Storm in Grixis colours headed by Kess or Jeleva. Same as Ayli above: Mid Power is appropriate for a worse version of a worse version of a competitive deck. The usual strategy Chainer decks go for is too slow and inefficient to matter in High Power and above.

potatopotatopotato - Yeah, it's still fine. If you wanna learn more about the deck, you should check out the decklist database in the description and talk to some of the people listed there.

Hyrkh - Jarad will be added to Mid Power. Meren has effectively replaced him as the competitive option for a midrange-y BG Graveyard deck.

Jamiemac - You comment here.

gminnick - Every Esper Commander kind of has the issue of "it's not Zur", and the same thing is unfortunately true for Sydri. She doesn't provide any advantages that are good enough to compete with Necropotence in the Command Zone, so she will remain in High Power.

LabManiac_Sigi Thanks for the info! So Mike/Trike/Devourer and Nec Ooze combo are relegated to mid power?

Well, no - I recommend reading the description. We're not making claims that a particular commander can't be built to be at a higher power level than it's listed here. However, the generic strategy that both Jarad and Meren fit into is, as I've pointed out, BG Graveyard Midrange. And for that particular strategy, Meren is the current optimal choice, hence her placement in Competitive. Even if your graveyard payoff (Nooze vs Protean Hulk) is different, the strategy still works in the same way. And we're only evaluating those generic competitive strategies together with their most optimal choice of commander.

Lasav Ad Naus

Needs some thoughts on this please. Trying to push some boundries in a playstyle I've never tried.

ForsakenxEDHx I don't know if you're posting in the right place here bud. I know there isn't a category defining rules for posting here, but I think it's generally frowned upon to advertise personal lists on any page really. This page is primarily meant for commander discussion, and lists should be posted only when inquiring a change in placement or suggesting a decklist for a standard list for a commander in the higher power levels. There may be other pages or forums on here dedicated for players seeking advice on EDH decks but I'm not sure if I can steer you in the right direction.

LabManiac_Sigi Ok thanks for the clarification!

DangoDaikazoku not really advertising, trying to see if Lazav can go higher in Tier. Basically looking to see if I'm on the right track.

Also just noticed where this is posted...my bad..not sure how it got here.

ForsakenxEDHx I wasn't trying to sound rude lol. You didn't mention anything regarding tier placement in your post, so it looked as if you were just seeking advice on your deck which admittedly you were, and I also can't help but feel as if your follow-up post is being sarcastic and condescending too...

Regardless, Lazav, the Multifarious is appropriately placed in high-power for a combo deck. I have a list of my own that uses Necrotic Ooze combos and it's capable of winning on turn 3, Lazav is just at the helm for redundancy to the combo. I believe Lazav plays very similarly to Sidisi, Brood Tyrant, but it isn't quite as consistent or fleshed out simply because the lack of green cuts out the Hermit Druid and Protean Hulk combos and puts more weight on Nooze which means in case of removal we have to use secondary win-cons with cards like Phage the Untouchable and Vector Asp + Phyrexian Dreadnought which simply isn't nearly as ideal as the combos green has to offer. You're list doesn't look bad, but I'm afraid it's not comparable to the other decks in the competitive or maximum-power categories due to certain factors such as budgetary restrictions, consistency, and some questionable suboptimal choices.

forgot to mention the lack of green also cuts the accessibility to Food Chain combos which is important in Sidisi combo. Also made a small grammatical error with the wrong form of "your" in my previous post, but I'll go ahead and blame that on lack of sleep.

No Sarcasm and no idea where your getting the condescending from. Maybe reading to deep into words, or I'm more sleep deprived from working through play lines than I thought.

I made several choices based on Ad Naus and budget constraints yes, however the idea I feel is sound and haven't obsevered or heard talk of Lasav Ad Naus lines yet. Doomsday Lines seem another strong possibility. Forgetting the Questionable choices a more constructive thought would be which lines are worth a budgetless pursuit? And can Lazav push past Hi-power?

Lazav can naturally curve into Architect/Pili and win turn 3 also does not require a lot of set-up to assemble, also easy to tutor for and play early. I found it far easier to manage than Grim-Grin/Bloodline Keeper.

I'd like to see some more great minds putting though behind Lazav as we haven't really seen this kind of Interaction of switching from Aggro, Combo, and/or Voltron at will on an Ad Naus curve.

At max power no budget, I don't see why he couldn't be on Par with Edric, Ruric Thar, Circu, Ghave, or Jodah.

I'm certian it's Sleep Deprivation, my grammar is atrocious.

Can you guys provide the decks from the high power section like they used to?

ForsakenxEDHx my apologies. I see a bit of what you're saying though. I just feel as if Lazav is not quite there yet even after designing my own deck around him. Although I haven't really considered AdNaus or Doomsday lines so I don't know how they would play out. Feel free to enable chat with me. Maybe we could discuss this in further detail and perhaps even collaborate on a cEDH list in the near future.

@Magnivore

I'm not a mod. But as someone who would like that myself, I'd like to share my opinion.

I don't think they will and I don't think they should.

True, as a non-cEDH player myself I'd love to see such dedication and it would be a great resource. But that would complicate the list of decks (by getting harder to navigate and to mainatin) without adding much to the discussion.

I'd rather have a well-maintained list oriented towards the top dogs of the format rather than go-wide faulty solution like the one we had before. Just my opinion though.

But if you're looking for a list for a specific general, just ask and I'm sure people here will be kind enough to direct you to a good sample list.

Yeah, JohnnyCRO is on point here. We've provided some resources and links to places where you can discuss and ask about lists for High Power and below in the description. Those are going to end up being much more useful than whatever sample list we end up linking here.

LabManiac_Sigi: I originally tagged ShaperSavant but I would like to push for Saffi Eriksdotter to be bumped up to the High Power section. She originally sat at tier 2.5 (I know that doesn't mean much) but I believe she embodies the philosophy of high power. She isn't as consistent as the competitive decks, however she is still a fast combo deck, with her comfortably able to combo off around the turn 6 mark (I have goldfished multiple turn 4 combos, but not as consistently).

If you want I can supply a few decklists (both mine and other people's) which show a few different optimised builds.

Thanks for the update! Love this list and I've been referencing it for a couple years now.

In defense of Zacama: I've played a ton of Naya, including Mayael, Samut, and Zacama. Of the three I think Samut is the strongest, Zacama is second, and Mayael is weakest. Mayael has the potential to be really explosive, but I find her to be much more of a finicky build that is relatively easy to disrupt. On the other hand, Samut can deal huge damage out of nowhere, even if you have an empty board, and Zacama, at the very least, ensures you get immediate value out of just one cast. In other words, I'd put both Samut and Zacama in the high power tier, and Mayael in the mid power tier.

What do people think? I love Mayael and would appreciate anyone who wants to convince me I'm wrong about her.

I really don't see Zacama coming down fast enough or often enough to be Hi-Power, Samut has a better shot but turn sideways is generally not accepted as viable.

I'd rather has as large of a repository of decks that have been spiked by people. For example, I came here earlier to look for the Zedruu Stax and Hateful Marchesa lists that I knew were linked here only to find that they were removed. At least store them somewhere if not here so they've not gone to waste.