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There are some builds using Flash and Omni and Rector and Protean Hulk. And then generating tutor-lines to get to Seasons Past + Tutor + Tutor to play you whole deck. It's really cool since we get Imperial Requiter, Requiter of the Guard and Spellseeker.

the last time i remember jodah ideas bouncing ideas around it was for flash rector into hive mind and using pacts to kill everyone in upkeep. jodah only being there to reduce BB for naus. perhaps theres an efficient line for hulk since you can cast for 5 if you really need it.

Thanks for the shout out Winterblast. In regards to this list, as in most other tier lists, the power levels here have more to do with politics than provable values.

What can be claimed without evidence can be dismissed just as quickly (Hitchen's Razor) and this is in regard to pretty much all cedh "theory".

Really thinking Aminatou is misplaced. Def a 2 not a 3. Ran a TCG store and she dominated after coming out. To many easy infinite combos with her that win the game turn 3-5.

Really thinking Aminatou is misplaced. Def a 2 not a 3. Ran a TCG store and she dominated after coming out. To many easy infinite combos with her that win the game turn 3-5.

Really thinking Aminatou is misplaced. Def a 2 not a 3. Ran a TCG store and she dominated after coming out. To many easy infinite combos with her that win the game turn 3-5.

j_spencer93 If you're suggesting a placement shift from high power to competitive you should post a decklist here so people understand what you're talking about. The list should be rather tuned and optimized as well considering you're comparing it to other competitive lists in the metagame. Also saying that you played her at a game store and dominated with her means nothing since for all we know you may have played against casual decks.

Id like to nominate my Rashmi deck in place of the one listed. I feel like mine is a little more up to date, and a little less clunky.

Suggestions and constructive criticism encouraged

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/lets-make-rashinal-decisions/?cb=1543499252

Thank you

Mr9Loganja please delete that comment, it has your user ID still in that link!

SynergyBuild I apologize, but i ha e no idea what you mean by that. Also, how do you delete a comment here?

You can probably just press the edit button and remove the User Id at the end of the URL you posted.

DangoDaikazoku after looking at j_spencer93, I doubt they understand cEDH, and after looking at all of the Aminatou lists online, Tier 3 seems about right, all are trying some difficult combo, where I think that Tier 2 is possible.

The reason is that I feel it can make a reasonably good replacement for Zur. Sure, it can't fetch Necropotence, but that is a backup plan anyway, unless you want to play Tainted Shimmer Zur instead of Doomsday Zur. As is, with a fetchland manabase, enough shuffle effects in tutors, you can abuse Aminatou as a way to turn all of your Enlightened Tutor, Mystical Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Imperial Seal, and Personal Tutors into real tutors-to-hand in effect.

This alone gives it a bit of power, and I think a pile like Gush, Altar of the Brood, Predict, Felidar Guardian, Reanimate (Top -> Bottom) could be really funny too. Obviously worse, but funny.

SynergyBuild gotcha. Gimme a few to figure it out. On mobile right now

SynergyBuild I assumed tier 3 was appropriate regardless, but when suggesting a shift from 3 to 2 I can't help but feel as if a comment needs more sustenance than saying "she dominated after coming out" and vaguely saying that she has access to easy infinite combos to win by turn 3-5. Every commander in those colors would have access to powerful infinite combos, and it goes without saying that she's no Zur lol.

From what I understand, there are huge distinctions between tiers 2 and 3, because tier 2 starts drifting into the most powerful commanders in cEDH. I'm not saying that tier 3 isn't viable in cEDH, but in order to make a placement into tier 2, a deck has some strong contenders to compete with for that competitive grouping.

After trying out Sai, Master Thopterist So far he is can go in the high power tier. Despite the color restriction, the commander have so much utility and can combo out pretty fast if used right.

Sai, Gradius Player (Destroy the core)

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Hey love the work, but I personally would say that Hapatra should be 1.5. A great primer is here: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/toxic-relationship-hapatra-edh/. I think the main reason that it should go in is that it is a deck that can combo off to absurd degrees, and also if you run quillspike you gain 2 more infinite combos. It definately isn't tier one, but I think that it is a bit above tier 2.

mkohm5 I think tier 3, where Hapatra is listed is just right for your list. Your deck runs minimal ramp, removal, and your deck doesn't have an efficient combo, stax, control of nearly any kind, nor can compete in terms of speed compared to the meta.

How in god's name did Ishkanah, Grafwidow end up in the same tier as Kaalia of the Vast?

Whoa I would assume that Ishkanah, Grafwidow has some powerful combo with Food Chain.

ishkana can at best get a trillion spiders with FC. theres nothing to do after that to my knowledge. FC cant dump the mana into the activated ability.

The sarcastic answer is that Ishkanah, Grafwidow eats Kaalia of the Vast every time she attacks ;)

Less sarcastically we should be looking at other things in the 'high power' tier for comparison. Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow and Purphoros, God of the Forge win games with their abilities while ones like Jori En, Ruin Diver and Queen Marchesa really just draw cards and won't be directly winning the game with their abilities.

Card draw is a strong effect for sure to have in the command zone. I run Marchesa myself but I could replace her with any of the mardu commanders and play the deck about the same with a little less consistent draw power.

The high power tier, seems to me, to have a wide range of power levels in it. Where the competitive tier and the maximum power tier have a very specific power level within them.

your captain sisay and Kess decks are not top tier. Please revise them because: The captain sisay -Carpet of Flowers works online vs a mono blue deck, 95% of cedh decks run NON basics, making it a DEAD card in a lot of games (not consistent) -Azusa? Why even... when you can cast her you should already win... doesn't give protection, doesn't ramp fast enough... -Ethersworn Canonist .... it stops your own combo line... you hurt yourself more then your opponents -fiend hunter? wtf is this -Hushwing Gryff blocks paradox triggers, again screwing you over more then your opponents... -in the description is says it runs a lot of good combo lines (like saffi + bontu's monument) but in the deck itself it runs none of those -Stony Silence may block some good artifacts but it AGAIN stops your combo, bow of nylea won't work anymore -Urza's Ruinous Blast is to slow, if you got that amount of mana over, you should already be winning -Qasali Pridemage why even bother, there are better 1 mana removal spells that also help trigger paradox engine on instant speed. There is a LOT more wrong in this version of Captain sisay and I dont see why this got on here.

kess consultation - only wins with 1 card? lab maniac? - so just remove that card from the game and that deck CAN'T win... It's just a deck running some counter spells, cantrips and tutors...

please do more research about the decks you post here

Well, does Volcanic Island not count as an island on the Carpet of Flowers effect?

Odysseus_97 carpet checks type, not name, so it will count Volcanic Island, Moonring Island, Island, Snow-Covered Island, Steam Vents, any land under a Prismatic Omen or Spreading Seas, etc.

drop carpet of flowers turn 1 adds 0 to 2 mana max on turn 2, mostly just 0-1 still a dead card, any other 1 mana drop is better for consistency if you draw the carpet of flowers after turn 4 its completely pointless since you don't need mana at that point anymore if it would target all opponents it would be usefull, but right now in a white green deck who can run a lot of mana ramp cards, why even bother with the carpet.

you would need - an opponent dropping a Land type: island on turn 1 - if not, its pointless

see how useless it is? anyone dropping like city of brass and the likes will make it useless