Commanders by Power Level [EDH Tier List]

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Soren841 says... #1

My guy t0 is Maximum Power. Notice the list starts at 0 not at 1 edit: they changed it. It was 0 before

December 14, 2018 11:01 p.m. Edited.

Soren841 says... #2

Godo's placement is likely due to the fact that it is completely reliant on Godo without the colors to protect him, along with the inconsistent draws that are red's downfall.

December 14, 2018 11:03 p.m.

IronBlackZepp says... #3

I think Yidris is absolutely maximum power. He is more of a backup plan for a storm list, but a powerful one at that. He dies just as easily as any commander, but then so does Zur. Thats why he is backup.

Azami should be in competitive. I have run her for years along with Zur (mostly online), Oona, and Thrasios/V Smasher. Good combo control dispite some of the backlash in resent years. I get more wins with her than with Oona.

Mizzix is the best option for storm in U/R. Cannot say for sure if it's competitive or not though.

December 15, 2018 12:29 a.m.

Aphoticate says... #4

Is Mizzet hard to stax? I don't play against a ton of Stax decks so I really don't know. Like, is he any good at pushing through stax conditions with raw ramp?

If not, what are some decks that arent stax decks themselves that give stax a bad matchup?

December 15, 2018 12:47 a.m.

Aphoticate says... #5

Mizzix*

December 15, 2018 12:48 a.m.

IronBlackZepp says... #6

Zur gets around stax pretty well.

December 15, 2018 12:49 a.m.

Dango says... #7

Yeah they changed the highest tier from tier 0 to tier 1 in the last update I believe, it took me a while to notice it myself.

Also I wouldn't necessarily say Zur gets around Stax pretty well considering different Stax effects hit different things. Zur wouldn't be able to win under a Rule of Law, Arcane Laboratory, and even Damping Sphere to an extent because Storm and Doomsday combos die to that sort of hate. Common Hatebear threats like Aven Mindcensor and Leonin Arbiter make its triggered ability a bit awkward, and a commander like Derevi could consistently keep Zur tapped down to prevent Zur from even attacking. I wouldn't flat out say "X gets around Stax pretty well" because Stax comes in many different forms and can hate a vast variety of targets. It really all depends on what the Stax player is packing. Zur wouldn't care if a Torpor Orb hit the board, but he would need to find an out quick if Rule of Law did for example.

December 15, 2018 2:08 a.m.

IronBlackZepp says... #8

I get your point Dango, but Zur is certainly better fit to fight stax decks than most commanders because he can search out cards like grasp of fate, or necropotence which can help find cards to bounce the stax pieces. But yeah, stax does have a pretty wide variety. I should not have said he gets around stax easily, but that he has better access to tools for dealing with hate cards.

December 15, 2018 3:03 a.m.

Soren841 says... #9

Yidris fights tax pretty well, which is storm's biggest enemy after Rule of Law

December 15, 2018 7:59 a.m.

SynergyBuild says... #10

Soren841 you still have to pay additional costs onto cascaded spells, so Yidris kinda sucks against stax.

December 15, 2018 10:55 a.m.

Soren841 says... #11

SynergyBuild not really, because it's like 1 mana tops for an extra spell, and a much better chance to hit removal.

December 15, 2018 11:30 a.m.

Dango says... #12

It's all pretty subjective really. Yidris might be able to manage a Sphere of Resistance or Thorn of Amethyst, but a Trinisphere dropped early could be hard to work with on top of other taxing effects. The taxing effects of Damping Sphere are almost just as good as a Rule of Law on the field most of the time too. The green Yidris has access too is really helpful though because he gets access to Nature's Claim and other green artifact/enchantment removal in addition to red's artifact removal as well which gives him a bit of an edge against Stax as opposed to other Storm decks because he tends to have more answers to it.

December 15, 2018 12:27 p.m.

Soren841 says... #13

Also Mizzix is more combo than storm. He (she? idk) aims to cheat in ETI, mainly with Mizzix' Mastery. There's multiple lines making use of Mizzix' ability, including some interesting Intuition lines, but I don't think it has enough to be Competitive tier.

December 15, 2018 12:50 p.m.

vasarto77 says... #14

What? Omnath of mana is competitive! He's absurdly powerful. Just crank up the mana and give him infect or trample or trample or more trample and more mana.

December 20, 2018 8:38 a.m.

SynergyBuild says... #15

vasarto77 then watch as you lose all of your mana and work because one player had Chain of Vapor during your combat step.


Yeah, Omnath is bad Selvala, Heart of the Wilds and really bad Yisan, the Wanderer Bard.

December 20, 2018 8:44 a.m.

Dango says... #16

vasarto77 you're making subjective points without any legitimate backing to it. Also are you arguing for Omnath, Locus of Mana or Angry Omnath? Or are you arguing for both? That's very unclear to me.

Also make note of the very bottom of the description where it says "If you would like to provide suggestions, please leave a comment (and ideally a link to a decklist)." If you feel as if whichever Omnath is competitive, please provide a decklist worthy of the placement so people can understand what you are talking about. Both of the Omnaths are High Power in my opinion, just because the whole "I swing in with the big creature" strategy isn't the most powerful one in the cEDH realm especially in a color identity that doesn't provide the protection it needs.

December 20, 2018 9:01 a.m.

SynergyBuild says... #17

Locus is what I imagine, DangoDaikazoku, Angry omnath costs 7 mana.

Now that would be a joke xD

December 20, 2018 9:06 a.m.

SynergyBuild says... #18

  • mana locus, vasarto77 does say "Omnath of mana" after all.
December 20, 2018 9:07 a.m.

Dango says... #19

Apologies, it was 5:30am here when I read the comment and I am a sleepy boy who needs to go take the big snooze again. Either way the points I made still stand. I think maybe if Omnath was in Temur colors like Animar it would be a lot better, but the mono green is a crutch and not nearly as consistent as other mono green generals since it loses its ramp after getting hit with removal and needs to build it all back up again. I'd honestly much rather run Kruphix instead of Omnath for blue with a similar effect on top of an indestructible enchantment creature.

December 20, 2018 9:19 a.m.

SynergyBuild says... #20

Doomsday Circu is my write-up for Circu, do you all think it is worth a slot?

December 20, 2018 9:51 a.m.

Soren841 says... #21

Storing mana is not anywhere near as effective as Marwyn or Selvala (they're arguably the same deck but Marwyn debatably is slightly better don't @ me)

December 20, 2018 2:20 p.m.

Soren841 says... #22

Storing mana is not anywhere near as effective as Marwyn or Selvala (they're arguably the same deck but Marwyn debatably is slightly better don't @ me)

December 20, 2018 2:20 p.m.

vasarto77 says... #23

@SynergyBuild On no. You mentioned a card that can beat a creature which means the creature is automatically bad. Well....you sure showed me what for I tell you what.

December 20, 2018 4:11 p.m.

Soren841 says... #24

vasarto77 it was an example. One of many. Hmu on Untap.in for an explanation of why swinging with a big omnath doesn't work.

December 20, 2018 5:04 p.m.

mkohm5 says... #25

Hi, curious as to how ishai would be played? Who would she be partnered with. I can see how it could be good, but I can't really think of any cEDH synergies with her at the helm

December 20, 2018 7:33 p.m.

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