Check your post from Jan 12, 2:32 PM synergy

JohnnyCRO What is it about the phrase 'I cast Genesis Wave for 55 on turn 6' that doesn't ring a bell with you, exactly?

I'm just happy to hear that there will be some rules enforcement in the comment section.

@NoOneOfConsequence

I’m not gonna get into a discussion with you bc of everything I’ve seen over the past week or so. But I will explain myself.

It’s funny to read that in a format with a card pool this wide and wehere a single mana more or less makes the difference between a staple and unplayable a whooping 6 mana difference doesn’t matter. I’m not playing Seton so I don’t know if it’s really so and frankly I don’t couldn’t care less.

You just gave me a good laugh. I’m not looking to get into discussion about something this unimportant to myself, but you cracked me up. Nothing more, nothing less.

Hey @NoOneOfConsequence, after I reread the post tw0handt0uch notified me about, I want to apologize again.

Also, I have seen a really well-tuned Seton before, but am unsure if I would call the one I played against higher than "High Powered".

Mind posting your list? You may have done it before but I don't remember seeing it.

Thanks!

(Btw now that you have upgraded can u enable chat?)

Oh! @thegigibeast/@tw0handt0uch, now that you are all back in action, mind explaining why Ishai is in the competitive branch? What does it partner well with?

Also can Anafenza, the Foremost be moved up to high power pls? :3c

The discussion for it got buried months ago, but I think people who were active in the discussion agreed tier 3 was more representative for a hatebear list.

True True DiverDown

G O D O

I haven't seen a list I've been more in love with since gtoast's

CyborgAeon of course you'd say that xD

Godo is half really cool and half a joke IMO, hilariously fun to watch nonetheless, it is like someone assembling a rocket launcher with their back to a bunch of opponents with knifes, if it is interacted with, or stabbed it will lose, but if it isn't, game over.

Double post sry

Triple post ;-;

Quadruple Post!?! So sorry!

I want to say Godo is kind of in between. If tier 2.5 existed it would be there, but it's just slightly below the cusp of being tier 2 in my opinion. Still, I can't help but think he is the best mono-red general out there.

I wholeheartedly with, SynergyBuild, but then... meme decks in a competitive format hold a special place in my heart. It's why I dedicated so much time to playing it against stax cedh/control metas. It's really painful having to demonstrate your lines once they've managed to gut Kozilek, or if they really hit Gitrog hard. But to me, it'll always feel like playing Pac-man, lands edition.

So yeah, I see what you mean. Godo, though with godlike speed in a good hand - without it, he ends up a poor stax deck... ;~; don't worry. Soon, they'll print something to make the deck more busted.

I'm still interested in why Ishai is so... well ranked. Furthermore, I know that this topic came up a long time ago, and since there's recently been an update, I wanted to ask if anybody considered this deck for an example Lilianaru heretical healer deck. I know it's a mono-black stax deck which means it's very vulnerable, but with a little refinement it could be more than just mid-power. It's... pretty good - IMO (but then, as already stated - I am a fan of jank)

Honestly, almost all of the decks in EDH are pretty jank in comparison to any other competitive constructed format. Laboratory Maniac , a joke card in all but 1 janky legacy deck is a mainstream wincon here, and so I love that.

I like to think that it's only because of the vintage legal carpool we have access to in this format, that make the decks we build pretty damn competitive, even when compared to the most competitive decks in the other formats.

Fair, but the Vintage Metagame is also super different than the EDH metagame.

crstisalie and SynergyBuild:

For fun, I often run EDH decks against decks from other formats. The EDH deck thinks it's playing an EDH game--it has 40 life, card in command zone, 100 card singleton, etc. The other deck, be it Modern, Legacy, etc. thinks its playing in its format, complete with a puny 20 life.

Matching relative power levels (tier 1 legacy vs. tier 1 commander), its surprisingly even in aggressive games. Extra life helps offset the consistency provided in 60 card, 4-of decks. 60-card Control decks tend to have an edge (hooray for multiple Force of Will s!), though their finishers might not be powerful enough to punch through 40 damage. Combo decks are vastly superior in 60 card, where you can reliably assemble them due to multiple copies of the combo pieces and best draw spells. Ultimately, Commander needs additional boons, such as twice the starting life total, to be competitive against 60-card constructed.

That's all to say, I agree with SynergyBuild - the appeal of Commander, or any singleton format, is that it is a tad more janky than other formats. You are much more reliant on what cards you draw, and can't reasonably expect to get that one card you desperately need. That means you have to constantly be thinking and adjusting on the fly, which makes for some fun games.

Part of what sets cEDH apart from casual EDH is a quest to minimize the jank, be it through expensive, efficient tutors or vicious card-draw packages.

SynergyBuild I did post it before, actually, but I made a couple changes, so here it is again: Begin the Hymns.

Seton Breakneck Combo is probably still a better deck than this one, but I built it without referencing that list until very recently, so it may have its own value worth considering.

cdkime you really summed up well what makes cEDH interesting. The whole format only works because we have so much life to work with and don't have to worry about "stupid" aggro just getting us down to 0. There's no other format in which the clock is combo instead of aggro and that's really amazing.

That's why I miss Partial Paris. Because EDH is a singleton format, it helped us, at least to some degree, offset the fact that we are only running one copy of each card, by being able to sculpt our opening hand pretty efficiently.

I think that would result in lots of t1/2 kills today. The format got faster even with normal mulligans, now imagine how that would be with partial paris lol.

crstisalie sadly it made the wonky combos like Narset too consistent, not really giving control lists from permission to stax the ability to exist. Without those, you can't easily expect midrange top exist much either.

The format wasn't solved, but consistently was fast combo, whereas there are now a plethora of different decks to choose from in archetype.

For me, the more explosive the format, the better, lol.

I still think some control/stax lists would still be viable, but I agree that certain decks that are viable now wouldn't be, if for whatever reason, Partial Paris became a thing again.