Commanders by Power Level [EDH Tier List]

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JohnnyCRO says... #1

@MagickedOne

If you think he should be tier 2, providing a competitive list alongside some reasoning and/or relevant playtesting data would be nice. This way any discussion is more fruitful and only the best ideas get into the spotlight.

Is it just me or has the general quality of discussion here went down in the last few months?

I’m not a cEDH player, but keeping tabs on cEDH has helped me a lot bc non-cEDH crowd isn’t as meticulous as you guys and a lot of things I hear from cEDH community can be translated at least somewhat to non-cEDH. But lately I’ve seen very little spice and/or good discussion on the said spice. I’m not calling out anyone, I’m just curious

March 16, 2019 6:40 a.m.

MagickedOne says... #2

The Boonweaver Karador deck is the decks best build and is quite known so I assumed a list wasn’t needed since even new players at my lgs knows of that combo. My only personal tech to Karador is Mindslicer so I can strip everyone of their hands so none of my moves can be responded to next turn

March 16, 2019 6:51 a.m.

hkhssweiss says... #3

@ JohnnyCRO

I think most of the good in-depth cEDH discussion is mostly done on discord. Much people who do decided to post doesn't do much research before posting, therefore lowering the quality of the topics on the page. Personally it is also due to the meta as well, there isn't a large enough shift as is pretty stable atm. The most recent spicy brew I heard about is the Divergent combo, a friend of mines built the deck and been testing it out for the past couple of weeks.

Just my two cents :P

March 16, 2019 6:58 a.m.

CyborgAeon says... #4

If you're looking for premium spice - check out ShaperSavant Opus Thief build. Opus Thief

March 17, 2019 6:42 p.m.

hkhssweiss says... #5

@ CyborgAeon I seen that one once the deck was posted as well as when Smothering Tithe was spoiled! I picked my foiled one when it was $4 and I never regretted it :P

March 18, 2019 6:52 a.m.

Hissp says... #6

Godo, Bandit Warlord finished in final pod of another cEDH tournament.

Please move him up to the Competitive Tier where he belongs.

March 25, 2019 1:25 p.m.

In the last two major online tournaments, Godo has been in the final table. I personally knocked all the Gitrog and Najeela decks out of the tournament, so they didn't even place.

March 25, 2019 3:41 p.m.

tw0handt0uch says... #8

I’ve always had a soft spot for Godo. I’d probably advocate for a move up at the next update

March 25, 2019 11:34 p.m.

hkhssweiss says... #9

Ohhh a mono red commander finally sees the limelight~

March 26, 2019 4:56 a.m.

MadMage says... #10

I'm a little curious about some of the T1/T2 distinctions; specifically, I am curious about T1 commanders whose primary strategy is to achieve infinite mana via Food Chain, for example, and then cast a commander who then achieves a win condition, such as Tazri - my question is, I suppose, since Tazri isn't even relevant until you have the infinite assembled then why would she be better than any other commander who wins immediately when infinite mana is achieved, such as Tasigur? I get that having access to all 5 colors seems powerful, but the lack of White and Red isn't exactly a huge detriment, given their lack of power and personally I feel going over 3 colors tends to give diminishing returns as far as streamlining your resources - Sultai can do everything 5-Color can with a laughably simpler mana base AND has access to the same win conditions as the majority of the T1 decks. Tasigur [as my primary example] can not only accommodate the best combos, but is also relevant in the command zone throughout the game as a value engine should the primary strategy be disrupted. I mean, if 5 Colors is that relevant why isn't Sliver Overlord on even the T2 list? He literally assembles a win the same way Tazri does; in fact, you could play literally the same deck with only a few minor changes to flip out the relevant allies for slivers. Oona mills the table with infinite mana, not terribly difficult to assemble in Dimir even without Green. Pretty sure Breya does, as well. And Prossh really only needs to find Food Chain itself, he doesn't even need Squee or Eternal Scourge.

As an aside, I wanted to note that I take issue with the suggestion of proxying - it took a me LONG time and effort to assemble a binder with every EDH staple in it, sans a few >$500 cards. I DO support checklisting, and feel it should be separate from proxying if you are willing and able to make the real cards available at the table during the game, but if you're going to sit down with the intent of playing the most optimal strategy/deck possible, at least put the effort in to acquire the cards themselves - otherwise you devalue the achievement and effort those of us who DID get the cards put into it.

March 26, 2019 6:32 a.m.

Bad_Dog says... #11

So, Kaalia?

March 26, 2019 8:33 a.m. Edited.

DrukenReaps says... #12

Bad_Dog what about her?

March 26, 2019 8:46 a.m.

Bad_Dog says... #13

She's a turn four deck or faster that did work in the recent tournament. DrukenReaps

March 26, 2019 9:12 a.m.

ShaperSavant says... #14

MadMage Food Chain mana cannot be used to activate abilities, which is why you can't effectively play Food Chain Tasigur or Sliver Overlord.

Tazri overshadows the other Food Chain options (Prossh, Maelstrom Wanderer, Tishana), mostly on the back of color-identity. Non-Food-Chain infinite mana has to compete with Thrasios as top dog; he isn't able to utilize Food Chain combo. If he were able to, Tazri would not occupy as high of a spot on this list.

March 26, 2019 9:41 a.m.

ShaperSavant says... #15

Addendum: Sidisi, Brood Tyrant can also be played as Food Chain combo. However, it's very reliant on the graveyard and requires extra pieces like Narcomeba and Dread Return. Tazri can combo through grave hate and doesn't require extra resources to win beyond what Food Chain is able to generate.

March 26, 2019 9:44 a.m.

CyborgAeon says... #16

G O D O. Ya' boi finally made it... I'm so proud!

March 26, 2019 8:42 p.m.

Spiderhead says... #17

Wasn’t Selvala Heart of the Wilds in the Maximum Power category? Did she get bumped down or am I just remembering it wrong? If so, why’d she get bumped down? She seems pretty consistent to me.

March 27, 2019 5:39 p.m.

She was never in Maximum Power in this iteration of the list. Maybe she was at the top when other people were maintaining it, but she's always been in Competitive since we took over.

March 28, 2019 1:56 p.m.

Bad_Dog says... #19

"Took over", heh, good description.

April 2, 2019 4:32 p.m.

shoeonthemoon says... #20

Hey could someone explain to me why yisan the wanderer bard is better than prime speaker vannifar? I mean sacking the creature is pretty easy and it chains up for free? Maybe that people could just kill the big creature, but not if you chain in one turn?

April 2, 2019 11:14 p.m.

shoeonthemoon says... #21

It looks like Jodah, Archmage Eternal isn’t on the list?

April 2, 2019 11:20 p.m.

shoeonthemoon says... #22

Nevermind I was blind

April 2, 2019 11:21 p.m.

shoeonthemoon says... #23

Makes sense thank you

April 3, 2019 12:46 a.m.

bryanedds says... #24

I've been playing a Godo deck for a while and my experience concurs with the others here that he deserves to move up a tier.

Either way, thanks for this list!

April 3, 2019 1:34 a.m.

lightninja7 says... #25

Sooo what is the ruling on wishes and sideboard?

I'd like to know because Captain Sisay can now use "Karn, the Great Creator" to possibly get win cons with the -2 abilities and doubles up as a hate piece :D

April 3, 2019 7:07 p.m.

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