Commanders by Power Level [EDH Tier List]

Commander / EDH* thegigibeast

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Hissp says... #1

First off - thanks for the update! I appreciate all you do for the format :)

Curious on some differences of thinking between this list and the cedh database:

There are 4 commanders currently sitting at Mid Power that are on the Fringe tab of the cEDH database: Anafenza, the Foremost , Edgar Markov , Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder , and Ikra Shidiqi, the Usurper

  • For context there are 29 commanders on this Fringe tab in Competitive and 17 in the High Power on this list.

  • There are also 7 commanders that listed as High Power here that are on the Outdated or Meme tabs of the cEDH database.

  • As a final point of context there are 3 Competitive and 111 High Power Commander here that are not anywhere within the cEDH database.

The point of all this context is that the 4 Mid Power Commanders listed above are played enough to facilitate their being added a database otherwise full of Competitive and High Power Commanders.

Please move these forgotten 4 up to at least High Power for the love of systemic symmetry, or provide good reasoning for not doing so while having so many Commanders sitting in High Power with little to no representation elsewhere on the internet ( Ambassador Laquatus , Gaddock Teeg , etc.)

September 6, 2019 1:59 p.m.

ShaperSavant says... #2

We are not associated with the cEDH Decklist Database and our resulting judgements may differ.

I think key to this particular set of discrepancies is that while building an analogue deck (in "off" colors with a suboptimal commander) to an established cEDH deck is possible, it doesn't reflect the power potentials of the commander itself. Example: Does a Dakkon Blackblade Esper Naus/Grace build that can steal games at fringe Competitive tables mean Dakkon belongs in Competitive? Definitely not.

We will take another look at how the off-color Partners fit into our schema going forward.

Predateeg [Enchantress Version]_Baseline

Competitive Laquatus

Hissp

September 6, 2019 2:40 p.m.

RNR_Gaming says... #3

How do we go about submitting a deck list to be reviewed and possibly added to the competitive section?

September 6, 2019 2:49 p.m.

ShaperSavant says... #4

RNR_Gaming Put it in the comments here.

September 6, 2019 2:55 p.m.

CommanderPatsy says... #5

Hey I wanted to submit my decklist of Ezuri, Renegade Leader . I really think he should be considered a "Competitive" Tier deck. It's a very fast combo deck that I've piloted for many years and it always performs. Here's my current primer!


Ezuri, Renegade Leader Combo Elves *Primer*

Commander / EDH CommanderPatsy

SCORE: 33 | 32 COMMENTS | 3926 VIEWS | IN 18 FOLDERS


September 6, 2019 3:26 p.m.

Hissp says... #6

Thanks for the quick reply ShaperSavant!

  1. It would be great to have more example decks linked for High Power! Thanks for finding examples so quickly :)
  2. I understand the broader point you're trying to make, but Dakkon Blackblade offers no synergy to the Esper Naus/Grace plan, which is not true for any of the decks I listed.
  3. Piggy-backing on the #2, you have many decks that DO synergize with their commanders that are outclassed (i.e. General Tazri or the plethora of other UGx Food Chain commanders. What if someone wants to play a Razaketh, the Foulblooded + Leonin Relic-Warder strat without having to play partners? Ambassador Laquatus is thoroughly outclassed by Urza, Lord High Artificer .
  4. Two of the 4 decks I referenced (Edgar and Blue Pod) have been updated TODAY!! The Teeg and Laquatus lists you referenced haven't been updated in almost a YEAR. Part of why I keep harping on these decks is that they're well-written primers geared specifically toward cEDH. I don't know very many up-to-date Mid Power decks that fall into that category, or I would be championing them as well ;)
September 6, 2019 3:31 p.m. Edited.

DrukenReaps says... #7

ShaperSavant I am by no means a competitive player but as far as "no obvious combos" for Volrath would his interaction with Tree of Perdition be good enough? Seems pretty silly to me but then again I am pretty silly myself :P

September 6, 2019 3:42 p.m.

RNR_Gaming says... #8

Please consider this for the competitive list for K'rrik. I've put a lot of thought and work into making it perfect but I'm always welcome to well thought out criticism and suggestions.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/krrik-citadel-cedh-primer/?cb=1567801090

Also, my slug doesn't want to co-operate; it keeps saying no item found. Down below is how I put it in but with double brackets; am I doing something wrong?

Deck:krrik-citadel-cedh-primer

September 6, 2019 4:25 p.m.

Omnisurge says... #9

Chainer combos with buried alive, dump Necrotic Ooze , kiki jiki, and mog fanatic, cast ooze from gy, has haste from chainer, target itself, make infinite copies of itself, use fanatics ability to sac them all to deal infinite damage.

September 6, 2019 6:05 p.m.

Gerrard only true downside is his color identity, but you can still combo with him, a sac outlet, and loyal retainers

September 7, 2019 4:49 a.m.

enpc says... #11

RNR_Gaming: the parser doesn't like capital letters on the object type identifier. So it has to be 'deck', not 'Deck':


K'rrik - Citadel CEDH [Primer]

Commander / EDH* RNR_Gaming

SCORE: 35 | 13 COMMENTS | 2821 VIEWS | IN 14 FOLDERS


September 7, 2019 9:55 a.m.

cvarena21989 says... #12

I brewed an Atla Palani deck, would anyone be willing to look at it and give me some advice or tell me if I made some mistakes? I want to build one of two of my brews but I'm not sure if this deck will actually work. I would greatly appreciate any help I could get if anyone is willing.

the wincon is boonweaver with altar of dementia to win.

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/atla-palani-booncheat/

September 7, 2019 2:09 p.m.

cvarena21989 says... #13

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/kaalia-zenith-gorger/

I created a deck for kaalia, zenith seeker as well. if anyone would be willing to look at this for advice. it's at medium budget right now as theres no original dual lands in it and some other cEDH staples that can be added. can turn in a t2 win with the "optimal turns" usually tests at 4-6 turn.

September 7, 2019 5:56 p.m.

cvarena21989 says... #14

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/bant-podweaver/

ok ladies and gents, this is the last deck in my possible build list. If anyone would be so kind as to review it and tell me my mistakes or things to make it better. I should note that im not trying to win on turn 3-5, I just want to win after the table has got to play a bit. the store I play at doesn't have a major competitive seen so I can't do a top tier efficient deck or I won't be able to play. All three of the decks i posted for review are not netdeck, they are all home brew. i just don't know all of the interactions.

September 7, 2019 9:27 p.m.

Iraruel says... #15

Hi again wanted to get an idea of what criteria Edgar Markov doesn't meet within the guidelines for competitive play? Been working on the list for a little bit of time and wanted to see other than CA in the command zone, what he lacked in regards to making the competitive tab?

The Pulls towards the deck is it is a similar playstyle to that of the Sidisis, focusing on fast combo and reanimation. It has one of, if not the, largest amount of layered cards between it's Skullclamp and Razaketh, the Foulblooded lines, as well as the fastest razaketh the foulblooded lines, usually going off with between 0/2 mana usually. The Razaketh lines included also are able to win from 2 creature + 0 mana, and with the recent addition of Dockside Extortionist an alternative line for later in the game that doesn't rely on chaining 0 drops. This allows us to have a low curve and also plays post Ad Nauseam fueling, Carnival of Souls as well as Phyrexian Altar which layer with the Oathsworn Vampire combo within the deck.

The clear disadvantages of the deck being the number of "dead" cards we layer to form more redundancy within the list, as well as the lack of Blue which would supply cantrips and counterspells for the deck. This interaction suite of the deck is slowly improving with more printings of stronger cards as well as effects such as Mandate of Peace .

Symphony of the Knight

September 8, 2019 4:31 a.m.

Feedlord117 says... #16

I think neheb dreadhorde champion deserves teir 2. It's a draw engine mana producing combo piece on the command zone. My neheb deck has performed pretty good in cedh match ups. It should fall somewhere near godo in power level.

September 8, 2019 2:23 p.m.

I was looking to submit my Anje deck that I have been playing at recent competitive tournaments at my lgs, overall the deck has been performing well and I believe there still can be some slight changes to be made but, over time the list will still be updated.


Competitive: Anje EDH

Commander / EDH* Dysfunctional_Iguana

SCORE: 1 | 10 VIEWS | IN 1 FOLDER


September 10, 2019 4:01 p.m.

ShaDoWz_6677 says... #18

Well, since everyone is submitting there deck suddenly ShaperSavant I showed you my list recently on discord. So I'll publish it here as well and hope that it hits the list you guys have. Elsha the Unrelenting Force [cEDH-Primer]

September 10, 2019 4:14 p.m.

TheGrayKing says... #19

Hey everyone, below is my initial build for Atla Palani if you guys would be kind enough to consider it for an example Atla deck. Atla Palani "everything hatches from eggs"

September 10, 2019 9:58 p.m.

Hey i was wondering whether xantcha is still considered competitive after its ruling change

September 11, 2019 2:39 a.m.

davidsays1 says... #21

EVERYBODY PARL(T)AY [Combo][Primer] my current Selvala, Explorer Returned deck, i will be updating it soon when i purchase 5 more cards, but for now it is what it is.

September 15, 2019 12:17 a.m.

MadMage says... #22

So... I'm not a cEDH player [though I do own and have infrequently played several Tier 0-1 decks on this list], but I often refer to this list as a reference for the power level of any given commander and some recent changes to the terminology of the list itself has me a bit... perturbed.

Specifically, I disagree with the use of 'Competitive' as the title for the Tier 2 section - by labeling commanders in the section as 'Competitive', you imply that these commanders themselves are mechanically competitive. This is often not the case and is generally dependent on the design and goals of the 99 rather than the Commander itself which makes this determination, as opposed to, say, a Yisan deck which by his very nature is difficult to build in anything BUT a competitive manner (excluding straight jank builds which do not seek to synergize with the commander). In the past this distinction has been easy to spot and I knew someone playing a Teferi deck is generally on a different playing field than my Animar Morph deck and by placing the Commanders themselves in the same Tier I think this list gives a false impression*.

I understand that the function of this list is to track the current meta of specific decks in a cEDH setting, however I would like to propose that, instead of listing these decks by tier ONLY by commander name you instead list them more specifically to the decks which helm those commanders and the strategies they employ - a Tazri Allies deck is a completely different beast than a Tazri Food Chain deck, and I think not making that distinction in the list itself detracts from the value of this list as a whole.

*: A large part of the issues and disconnect between cEDH and EDH stems from the term 'Competitive' being poorly defined within the community. Many believe simply employing an infinite to be competitive, despite it's actual difficulty to achieve and ability to actually end a game. Very few associate heavy tutor, fast mana, and low costed interaction with competitive play, despite these being the literal hallmarks of cEDH.

September 15, 2019 11:53 p.m.

ShaDoWz_6677 says... #23

Hello again! I would like to take this time to show support for Opal-Eye, Konda's Yojimbo .

Some of you may remember me from the Elsha cEDH post above. But my funsie EDH deck is in fact Opal-Eye, Konda's Yojimbo If the admins of this particular list would care to like it and potentially post it (Do mind you, this is NOT Yojimbo at its maximum potential. So there are no tutors besides Land Tax) Then I would be grateful. Also, for those interested in building him, this is a good primer for building a deck geared around him.

Yojimbo's Sanctions And thank you for your time and patronage.

September 16, 2019 12:22 a.m.

Daggerfella says... #24

I submit the REAL evidence that Aminatou, the Fateshifter is a Tier-2 Commander:

Aminatou Tutor Club

This is a turn 4-6 EDH combo deck.

September 18, 2019 8:44 a.m. Edited.

Franck8666 says... #25

Hello everyone, I've been brewing and testing an consultation thief Aminatou build for quite some time and I'm here to submit her as another way to crack open the consultation line for the win with Labman in place if Jace, wielders of mysteries is gone. She can also give you blink value for some artefact or ETB triggers (spellseeker) if need be. I know she'll never be as strong than Zur, but she can do a lot of work herself. Im also intrigue of the new card wishful claw into the build.

Here a link : http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/haiti-cherie/?cb=1568826033

Ps : some cards are there as budget replacement/meta call/testing

September 18, 2019 1:01 p.m.

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