Fallerup I've built Jhoira after the PE ban and she is still very strong but for the same kind of combo you'll need 2 cards in stead of one. O e being Isochron Scepter and the other being Dramatic Reversal

Hyrkh yeah, I know that works, but its considerably weaker than PE, because you need to have those 2 cards in hand for it to work. sure you could fill your deck with tutors for both, but is that worth it? You could just play Mizzix of the Izmagnus if you want Izzet storm. I think that Elsha of the Infinite has taken Jhoira's place as the artifact storm commander. people that use to play Jhoira artifact storm have moved on to Elsha instead, I read that many places while researching if Jhoira was still worth it because I wanted to build a storm deck and I like Izzet so, therefor it was either Jhoira, Mizzix or Elsha (she's Jeskai I know).

Hyrkh yeah, I know that works, but its considerably weaker than PE, because you need to have those 2 cards in hand for it to work. sure you could fill your deck with tutors for both, but is that worth it? You could just play Mizzix of the Izmagnus if you want Izzet storm. I think that Elsha of the Infinite has taken Jhoira's place as the artifact storm commander. people that use to play Jhoira artifact storm have moved on to Elsha instead, I read that many places while researching if Jhoira was still worth it because I wanted to build a storm deck and I like Izzet so, therefor it was either Jhoira, Mizzix or Elsha (she's Jeskai I know).

Kadena should be high power.

Fallerup Isn't the Jhoira list featured on here rather a stax than a storm deck? Jhoira did take a big hit from the PE ban, but comparing it to other storm decks feels a bit off.

WaitingForGodo you're right, it is a stax list. It doesn't seem to be very updated because most of the combos in the description include PE.

Fallerup true true, it would be really interesting to see how much this deck holds up in the current meta without PE. I can only imagine it being really fragile but wasn't able to test it yet

Where do you guys think that Korvold, Fae-Cursed King and Grumgully, the Generous would be at? I have a Grumgully deck that is pretty decent and I think it might qualify as at least a Mid or High Power Commander. But with Korvold I think I would be getting a similar effect, but with extra benefit with black.

Hey all,

Here's an old K'rrik list that I built awhile ago, please let me know what you all think.

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tendril-flux/

So I play a Yissan deck, and I was thinking of switching to Meta pod due to the logic of "having more colors = better". Yissan is currently rated higher than any blood pod variant. I was wondering what makes him stronger?

I'm just saying, Aurelia the Warleader deserves to be much higher if you're putting even Bruna in tier 3. Aurelia is definitely above the level of Anya, and the likes of other tier 4 cards. I wish voltron wasn't hated out so much. When built well it does some work, obviously not a 9 or 10, but a pretty solid 8 level if built right.

Like_a_boss: I hate to say it but even the most optimised version of Aurelia, the Warleader (which is Helm of the Host combo, not voltron) would be like a 6 at best. There have been a bunch of new cards in reed/white which definitely make the list more playable, but there's not way the list will be able to compete against the higher tier (especially combo) lists. Aurelia if just a bit too fragile unfortunately.

@Xyvre

Yisan has a tutor in the command zone, making it possible to answer threats at instant speed with creatures, without an opening for an opponent to start a counter war.

It’s pretty resistant to counters, since you basically don’t cast spells. It’s resistant to most form of stax because it’s a monocolor, creature-based deck with a lot of ramp that doesn’t need to cast many spells.

Blood pod is an excellent deck and in the right hands it can be better than Yisan in some aspects. It’s close to Yisan in power IMO. But I don’t think it can be said it’s better just because it has more colors.

ELD Updates

Maximum

• Kenrith, the Returned King

Competitive

• Chulane, Teller of Tales
• Emry, Lurker of the Loch
• Korvold, Fae-Cursed King

High

• Alela, Artful Provocateur
• Ayara, First of Locthwain
• Gadwick, the Wizened
• Torbran, Thane of Red Fell
• Syr Carah, the Bold
• Syr Konrad, the Grim

Mid

• Grumgully, the Generous
• Questing Beast
• Rankle, Master of Pranks
• Syr Elenora, the Discerning
• Syr Faren, the Hengehammer
• Syr Gwyn, Hero of Ashvale
• Yorvo, Lord of Garenbrig

Casual

• Linden, the Steadfast Queen
• Syr Alin, the Lion's Claw

Changes

• Yisan, the Wanderer Bard - Max to Competitive
• Pir, Imaginative Rascal & Toothy, Imaginary Friend - High to Competitive
• Grenzo, Dungeon Warden - High to Competitive

Explanations

Hope you still show the whole 'competitive' deck list instead of the link for easy browsing..

Hey guys, Kaalia razaketh should be upped to competitive status. The memes are fun, but frankly it's time.

I'd much rather play against an Urza than a Tasigur.

Also I think Inalla's ready for a bump up to comp. There's mono-black commanders in that tier... ;)

A little disappoint that grummy only got mid tier, but makes sense a bit I guess. I really want to try my hand at making a korvold next though.

I would like to propose 2 other highly competitive cEDH Kenrith decklist:

• 5C Flash Hulk Kenrith Primer
• Kenrith Consultation Scepter

The first one is already listed in the cEDH Decklist Database Primary

Kenrith is so versatile he deserves more decklists for people to build him as they see more fit to their playstyle :)

Keep the great work!!

I'm going for a grouphug/pillowfort Kenrith build, but I can see his cEDH potential.

Just curious why Harvest Animar isn’t tier 1?

MagickedOne Harvest Animar is my main cEDH deck and the reason that I don't believe it should be higher is because the WinCon relies on Animar being in play and under your control. There's been many games where I've been on the verge of winning only to have Animar stolen via Gilded Drake or some other means which slowed me down, effect like Lignify also hurt the deck a lot as well.

I have a proposed list for Thrasios Tymna, it's Shimmer Hulk. It relies on a similar shimmer zur build, but adds great green cards and a flash/hulk line with hulk>viscera seer+children of korlis+academy rector>necropotence. The deck can only win on your turn, but I found is very versatile.

Hey guys hello! What do you think about my Lobotomist for dummies deck list? Could it become a primer for Circu, Dimir Lobotomist decks? Even if not, I would be interested to hear your opinion and draw conclusions to improve the deck. Thanks!

I would like to submit my Grumgully design for him In addition I would like to petition for his tier to be raised to what you deem appropriate With this build I have found that he can consistently get turn 5 infinite combos going with his persist combos. He is the first persist commander in the command zone with more then 3 options of persist creatures (aside from Mikaeus) and with his extremely low mana cost, creature tutor, and large amount of sac outlets it makes for quite a mean deck.

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/grumgully-the-last-rainforest/