Commanders by Power Level [EDH Tier List]

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Lilbrudder says... #1

Why are posts copying themselves all over the website?

July 13, 2016 3:33 a.m. Edited.

Guftders says... #2

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but why is Teferi, Temporal Archmage ranked higher than Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir?

Just curious as all.

July 13, 2016 5:32 a.m.

Jazzyboy says... #3

Teferi, Temporal Archmage runs a really strong Stax deck apparently, with his -1 ability. His other two abilities are also pretty useful. A good Stax deck generally beats most other decks in EDH.

July 13, 2016 6:03 a.m.

Ohthenoises says... #4

Because the planeswalker can run Stasis and get away with it forever.

July 13, 2016 8:16 a.m.

Guftders says... #5

Btw, which variants of Tasigur are used in multiplayer? I know that the Golden Fang himself was banned in DC because the control deck he commandeered was starting to become rather dominant.

I also heard that there were reanimator variants, which prompted me to make this: Back Again?

But am I just better off running Karador, Ghost Chieftain instead? NOTE: I do not have Karador irl :L

July 13, 2016 noon

NarejED says... #6

@ Guftders: The two most common builds for Tasigur are hard control and Sultai Storm.

Reanimator isn't a great archetype for him, because The Mimeoplasm is in the same color identity and does it so much better. You can force it though and still have a fairly competitive deck.

Both Karador and Mimeoplasm are better for reanimator than Tasigur overall, yes. Of the two, Karador is superior.

July 13, 2016 2:31 p.m.

kyuuri117 says... #7

Can someone confirm that commander tax has no bearing on Aluren? Like if I have an Aluren on the field, I can cast Saffi (my general), for free at instant speed?

July 13, 2016 5:18 p.m.

Jazzyboy says... #8

Commander tax does still apply to commanders cast with Aluren on the field. It's an additional cost. You always have to pay an additional cost, even when you can otherwise cast a spell for free.(unless the card states otherwise)

July 13, 2016 6:04 p.m.

kyuuri117 says... #9

Right but, if she had died three times, I could still cast her at instant speed as long as I paid the extra 6? That's what I was getting at.

July 13, 2016 6:52 p.m.

Lilbrudder says... #10

You are correct kyuuri117

July 13, 2016 7:16 p.m.

Hells_Angel says... #11

I'll have you know I've beat several of the tier two or three generals with Zurgo, the bellstriker as my commander, I didn't cast him the whole game and just blitzed them down with goblins.... But it still happened!

July 13, 2016 10:13 p.m.

Ohthenoises says... #12

The only effect I'm aware of that gets around tax like that is Rooftop Storm since it gives an alternate cost..

July 13, 2016 10:44 p.m.

MagicalHacker says... #13

That doesn't either.

July 13, 2016 10:46 p.m.

Ohthenoises says... #14

Hmm, thought it did. Meh disregard then.

July 13, 2016 11:13 p.m.

Guftders says... #15

NarejED What exactly about The Mimeoplasm makes it better as a reanimator General than Tasigur, the Golden Fang?

I've got to admit that Mimeo doesn't scream "I bring reanimation/recursion", whilst Tasigur, although not a reanimator in himself, he does provide graveyard set up, and recursion for cards in grave (this is multiplayer after all, and so long as you have one friend at the table, you get whatever you want).

Personally, I think The Mimeoplasm is better in the 99, as a reanimator target that is in the same vein as Duplicant/Clone but for graves.

July 14, 2016 1:11 p.m.

Lilbrudder says... #16

Guftders: If you are using Tasigur's ability outside some emergency political play or as an infinite mana sink to win the game you are going about it all wrong for competitive EDH. His ability is horribly overcosted as an early game graveyard filler/recursion engine. Moreover, The Mimeoplasm literally is a reanimation spell. It is a one shot ability, true but that can be enough to win the game the turn you cast it. If you want to go reanimator both The Mimeoplasm and Sidisi, Brood Tyrant do that archetype way better. Running tasigur in that role is simply a bad fit for his abilities as he contributes nothing to the strategy except if your in top deck mode with no other options but to use his ability. Honestly bug reanimator could beat 70% of the generals on this list without ever casting its general (not exaggerating at all) so just because he works as a reanimator general doesn't mean he's suited to the task.

July 14, 2016 2:23 p.m.

Guftders says... #17

Lilbrudder Meh. Not feeling the plasm hype tbh, though he's definitely a contender for the 99. I've also tried the BUG Sidisi and felt her abilities were lacklustre.

And on the latter point, isn't that the point? Many good edh decks never cast their general. Jeleva storm for example. Your General is basically just a figurehead. Like, you can make a deck where it's the centrepiece (eg Nekusar, Nath of the Gilt Leaf or WB Daxos), but it's not essential.

I see I came to "the wrong neighbourhood" for this though (you come across a bit aggressively to me) so imma unsubscribe to the thread.

July 15, 2016 7:35 a.m.

Ohthenoises says... #18

Sidisi is strong because of her synergy with dread return. Cast her, attack a few times, dread return using her zombies, good game (if done correctly.)

July 15, 2016 7:45 a.m.

mtgThaen says... #19

The reason that a lot of the main contributors to this thread come across as agressive is because they want the deck or strategy to be proven. Think of it like peer review for academic works. These people, as well as the people on the subreddit, want to make sure something is rigorously tested before having a definite decision about it. So, if someone comes along and says the contrary, they (we) may jump the gun a bit because there is a proven, established precident for the idea. Or, it could be because sometimes we are unnecessarily agressive, but generally these discussions stay cool. Also, it's good to note that when "competetive" EDH is talked about here, it is understood to be the highest level of optimization and competitiveness. If that's not what you're after, then this thread may not be what you're looking for.

July 15, 2016 8:37 a.m.

Lilbrudder says... #20

Guftders: I apologize if I came across as agressive. Some decks do use thier commanders as placeholders, but I don't think that using a figurehead is the goal. If grixis storm had a different commander that facilitated easy victories then I think most competitive storm players would drop her in an instant. If you want to play renanimator with tasigur then go for it. I must have misinterpreted what you were trying to say. The impression I got was that you were planning on powering him out and self mill for 2 for the win.

July 15, 2016 9:18 a.m.

MagicalHacker says... #21

Woot! Comment refresh! I feel like I can breathe again XD

thegigibeast is Purphoros, God of the Forge: A BURNING Sensation? a good list for the missing Purphoros list for tier 2?

July 15, 2016 11:36 a.m.

thegigibeast says... #22

Looking at it!!!

July 15, 2016 11:43 a.m.

sonnet666 says... #23

MagicalHacker, No offense, but I really don't think it is.

I've been a Purphoros player since I started playing commander, and I gotta say, you have a ton of lackluster cards on that list. To me it looks like a standard "pump out lots of tokens" build, which is standard, but not the most effective way to build Purphoros.

My deck is on my profile. It used to be an infinite combo build, but since then it's sort of streamlined into a mana-advantage / card advantage build that focuses on sacrificing tokens for value. It's not completely optimized, because it's a list of the actual, physical cards I play with, and I have a budget, but I could whip up an optimized version in a little bit.

Also, Zealous Conscripts + Kiki-Jiki / Splinter Twin is the absolute WORST combo you can put in a Purphoros deck, because there's nothing that tutors for either Zealous Conscripts OR Splinter Twin. It was one of the first things I cut from my deck when I first started playing.

The best combo for Purphoros is Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + Lightning Crafter, because it's tutorable off of a single Goblin Matron, Goblin Recruiter, or Moggcatcher.

July 15, 2016 12:05 p.m.

Tusina says... #24

Edric is only tier 1 deck with missing list. Could this


Edric, Spymaster of Colgate

Commander / EDH* Colgate

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fit for that spot?

July 15, 2016 12:43 p.m.

sonnet666 says... #25

Tusina, I'd feel a little better about it if Beastmaster Ascension wasn't the only wincon in the deck. I know you're drawing a ton, but it's still unreasonable to think you're going to get that every single game if you can't tutor for it in your colors. A deck that ran Craterhoof, Triumph of the Hordes, and Natural Order would seem more optimized to me.

July 15, 2016 12:55 p.m.

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