Epochalyptik says... #2
I moved Skyscribing to Group Hug.
Sensei's Divining Top is fine as a filter card, but I hesitate to include it in a draw list. I suppose you can make a case for it, though.
December 22, 2013 7:07 p.m.
alexsmith21 says... #7
Stroke of Genius , Fact or Fiction , Mercurial Chemister , Sword of Fire and Ice , Collective Unconscious , Edric, Spymaster of Trest , Shadowmage Infiltrator , Lu Xun, Scholar General , Promise of Power , Mindless Automaton , Skullclamp , Read the Bones , Scarecrone , Mikokoro, Center of the Sea (Although this could be group hug)
December 24, 2013 3:19 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #8
@LiquidKid: No. Group hug effects are covered in the group hug list.
@alexsmith21: I'd rather not include cards like Shadowmage Infiltrator because they're generally bad in EDH. Some of the other cards are alright, though.
December 24, 2013 3:49 p.m.
It's not a group hug when you got Spiteful Visions , Zur's Weirding or Underworld Dreams on the field though =P
December 24, 2013 4:46 p.m.
How about Ad Nauseam Dark Prophecy and Underworld Connections ?
December 30, 2013 8:58 p.m.
nobu_the_bard says... #12
I like this list, but what sort of prerequisites do you have for inclusion on it?
For example Pulse of the Grid , Think Twice , Steam Augury , Underworld Connections , Brainstorm , Bident of Thassa are popular with my regular group. I have toyed with Inheritance , Diviner's Wand , and Puresteel Paladin but they are more situational. What about older stuff like Jayemdae Tome or Urza's Blueprints ?
January 7, 2014 10:34 a.m.
DokuNoSquid says... #13
Read the Bones is missing? less black intensive than Sign in Blood with the addition of scry 2 for 1 cmc more?
January 9, 2014 1:58 a.m.
What about cantrips like Ponder , Brainstorm , Ancestral Vision (not really a cantrip), and Gitaxian Probe ?
January 15, 2014 4:01 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #15
@nobu_the_bard: I want the inclusions to be effective and efficient. Think Twice is a bad draw card because it's just a cantrip. Inheritance is also bad because it's expensive an conditional. There's no defined list of criteria; it's more of a combination between my instinct and my familiarity with the format that guides my discretion.
@gufymike: I don't like the cantrips for the reasons stated above.
January 19, 2014 7:07 p.m.
nobu_the_bard says... #16
Okey dokey, thanks for answering my question :)
January 20, 2014 10:34 p.m.
I'd add Wheel of Fortune / Wheel of Fate / Reforge the Soul
March 3, 2014 3:07 p.m.
ghostnote14 says... #18
Azami, Lady of Scrolls is somewhat conditional, but very powerful draw in quite a few blue decks..
Think Twice isn't a cantrip, its a draw 2, which you can pay in two installments during your opponents end step.
March 14, 2014 3:07 p.m.
Prosperity , Stroke of Genius , Brainstorm , Careful Study , Faithless Looting , Staff of Nin , Jayemdae Tome , Book of Rass , Vision Skeins to beef up the list a little.
March 24, 2014 12:36 a.m.
noob-on-a-stick says... #24
Well of Lost Dreams + Lifelink (or some other source of Life gain) lets you draw cards at 1 colorless Mana per card.
It is included as a reprint in the Eternal Bargain Commander 2013 deck. Along with an alternate general that gives +2 life at upkeep, even if he's just sitting in the Command Zone.
P.S. What they didn't include is Exquisite Blood to really have it pop off. If you get both of those out at once at a larger table your draw will only be limited by how fast you can ramp up your mana, which should be fairly quick with all the cards coming in if you've got any mana rocks or other ramp to speak of.
They probably didn't include Exquisite Blood in Eternal Bargain not only because they already had plenty of money cards in the deck to have it sell but also serving up the insta-kill combo of Sanguine Bond + Exquisite Blood in a pre-fab deck would be a bit much. ;)
June 7, 2014 2:42 a.m.
Cobrakmmndr says... #25
You should include Land Tax even though it only gets basic plains it still is a repeatable draw three cards for 1 mana
erabel says... #1
Would Sensei's Divining Top count as a card draw card? Or is it just card advantage?
Also, either Skyscribing should move to Group Hug, or Prosperity should be put in here.
December 22, 2013 6:56 p.m.