tyforthevenom says... #4
May 3, 2015 2:22 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #5
Sanctimony is already in here and the last two cards are completely useless tyforthevenom.
May 3, 2015 8:50 p.m.
tyforthevenom says... #6
sanctimony didn't show up on the mobile phone version of the site and Night of Souls' Betrayal is a huge middle finger to twin making all twins creatures as useful as attacking with a Norin the Wary on an empty board
May 3, 2015 9:21 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #7
Twin still has Cryptic Command to return it to your hand and can easily counter it. I'd rather run Illness in the Ranks if I wanted to go that route because that way it can actually come down before Twin goes off. Most people would much rather run Rending Volley or Combust against twin, if they have red, or Slaughter Pact and Dismember if they have black.
May 3, 2015 9:28 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #9
Hide and Seek but not Porphyry Nodes? Only one of those sees play, and hint: it's not Hide and Seek.
The black enchantments are actually really good, and people play them to beat Infect. They should be on the list.
Mana Tithe is too low impact.
May 15, 2015 2:55 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #10
Hide/Seek is for Mardu decks bruh, and we all know mardu decks don't see play, but it is still considered a good sideboard card for them, particularly against tron decks in combination with Fulminator Mage.
Well, that probably was a good choice considering it was also useful against pod ... but pod no longer exists.
Anyways, I've never seen any decks ever running Porphyry Nodes or the black enchantments. Those enchantments are just way too slow as infect can kill you before then and twin can combo off before then. Porphyry Nodes doesn't exactly work in a creature heavy format that modern has turned into at the moment.
May 15, 2015 7:05 p.m.
tyforthevenom says... #11
Any deck that would run those enchantments will easily be able to buy time to cast them through Path to Exile Inquisition of Kozilek Thoughtsieze Liliana of the Veil and chump blockers
May 15, 2015 7:22 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #12
Jeskai Top 8'd a GP and won a PT with Nodes in the board. Can't link, but look for Greg Orange and Shaun Mclaren.
The enchantments are nuts. If you can get them into play, Infect CANNOT WIN. Your deck already has stall elements, so if you weren't getting to four mana you weren't winning anyway. Also, by your same stupid logic for Hide/Seek, it should be in here for posterity's sake.
May 15, 2015 7:36 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #14
Okay, I didn't think of nodes being top control material. However the other two I'm unsure about.
ChiefBell, your thoughts?
May 15, 2015 8 p.m.
tyforthevenom says... #15
i neglected to also mention the decks that run it almost ALWAYS Abrupt Decay
May 15, 2015 8:06 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #16
Aww man, am I not intelligent enough for you?
Also thanks for the links Ty.
May 15, 2015 9:53 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #19
I'mma tag ChiefBell again considering he most likely got his notifications shut down by JC :D
And I don't see that being used for anything hellto. Best off it would be for against Tron, but any deck that runs RB also has access to Fulminator Mage. Therefore, it wouldn't be used when we already have Terminate and Fulminator Mage.
May 16, 2015 7:32 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #21
Chief! Does Night of Souls' Betrayal and/or Curse of Death's Hold ever get used in Abzan?
May 16, 2015 7:37 a.m.
Nodes is a card that is rarely seen but can be made to work. Sure, it can get removed by some decks, but against others it is a potential instawin.
I've seen some Night of Souls' Betrayal rarely as well. Rarely. It occasionally can be used to shut down tokens (which is a poor matchup for a lot of Abzan decks) and sometimes, rarely, twin as well.
Both of those cards are around the meta, just not a lot of the time.
May 16, 2015 7:37 a.m.
The thing is like.... against tokens you might as well just play Damnation for the same mana and against twin it's just a waste because like they have 2 mana counterspells and it costs double that. Regardless it is sometimes seen.
May 16, 2015 7:45 a.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #24
Night makes it so Infect can't win, much better than any wrath does. I'll point you to Fabianos original Sultai deck, built coming out of the PT where Infect was a big deal. Might as well include for people who want to kick Infect's ass.
May 16, 2015 10:03 a.m.
I wouldn't count a 4-drop as being particularly useful against infect, right? I don't play that matchup much.
Femme_Fatale says... #1
Porphyry Nodes would be good against boggles only. Affinity plays about 5 creatures down within the first few turns, same with zoo. You are better off running enchantment wraths and sac effects against Boggles StopShot
April 28, 2015 4:02 p.m.