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Commander / EDH* SomeDipshit

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SomeDipshit says... #1

October 13, 2016 7:39 p.m.

PartyJ says... #2

Summon me again, in like a week or so.

Then I get home from a business trip and have a proper device to take a closer look :)

October 13, 2016 7:48 p.m.

NarejED says... #3

Studying for an exam currently, so I'll just offer this one tidbit of sage advice:

Needs more Yisan.

October 13, 2016 9:21 p.m.

PepsiAddicted says... #4

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I have been summoned?

sweet list, love the altered Ruric

October 14, 2016 3:32 a.m. Edited.

SomeDipshit says... #5

Thanks guys

Yisan, the Wanderer Bard first change

October 14, 2016 3:56 a.m.

Deckologist says... #6

And on the 8th day the lord declared that any that shall make Rurik Thar ought not to be the squishy part between a female's legs and play a deck that uses only creatures unless thy holy bolt be casteth down on us dealing 6 times damage unto us.

October 14, 2016 9:36 a.m.

CuteSnail says... #7

At first glance, Assault Suit seems pretty potent. Also seeing your main man hates on control, probably Cavern of Souls. I personally love Overblaze. It may hit you in the mouth, but then you will obliterate everyone else.

October 14, 2016 12:09 p.m.

SomeDipshit says... #8

Assault Suit could be fun, Cavern of Souls already in, Overblaze -- meh, cool idea to potentially deal 20 - 30 damage in a turn, and could potentially be used to kill someone who expects 6 damage rathe than 12, but also a little too situational, considering that having Ruric Thar out is usually a luxury.

October 14, 2016 12:49 p.m.

Matrixxx999 says... #9

Hi! I'm a bit late with my suggestions... was very busy

December 8, 2016 9:21 p.m.

SomeDipshit says... #10

hm those are some hot spicy suggestions

I have been very conflicted on Vandalblast, Shattering Spree, and Meltdown (as well as Wave of Vitriol and some of the green artifact sweepers).

Meltdown is my choice for now -- I can easily cast for 3 and get the same effect (since i don't run many artifacts and my artifacts eat removal anyways). Would definitely recommend that anyone building this deck just put in whatever artifact sweeper they prefer there.

Elvish Piper -- yeah -- that's a swell idea, I'll try to find a spot.

Thanks for not forgetting m8!

December 9, 2016 2:26 a.m.

SomeDipshit says... #11

Daedalus19876, NecroPony, TheFanatic, NarejED, PartyJ, Rinsewind, SorinDankov, Deckologist, PepsiAddicted, Panzerforge, Matrixxx999, EndStepTop, Ender666666, sonnet666, Lilbrudder, Hotcake_Gotsyrup, n0bunga

guise halp. I want aggressive cuts. I want aggressive adds. I want aggressive deck discussion.

April 14, 2017 6:22 p.m.

sonnet666 says... #12

I feel honored at the include, but I'm pretty sure there's a rule against mass tagging nowadays...

April 14, 2017 6:25 p.m.

SomeDipshit says... #13

shhhhhhhhhhhhhh

If there is, I actually didn't know, so sorry.

April 14, 2017 6:40 p.m.

PartyJ says... #14

I don't mind a summon when it's from a respected and devoted player at all ;)

So a more aggresive approach:

Cuts:

Adds:

These would be my first few ideas that spring to mind.

PJ

April 14, 2017 6:55 p.m.

SomeDipshit says... #15

You guys are going to make me cry, :)

So, for the next round of tests, I am going to do the following:

Meltdown --> Vandalblast / Meltdown + Vandalblast together. (Seriously, never enough artifact hate in this format)

PartyJ -- yeah I should really just be focused on Ramp and tutor -- never really need to draw, and hand disruption is barely a thing unless you are playing Mindslicer (at least, it seems to me). Or anyways, I can't really efficiently disrupt hands with just a few wheels, those were a bad idea. Not to mention that I will always need elves to replace the ones who die in a fiery inferno.

So, I think I can cut those mediocre wheel / mass draw effects and go straight for some more elf includes ... then also include Priest of Titania and Elvish Archdruid. I do need some mass draw ... or maybe just more tutors? I

April 14, 2017 9:18 p.m.

SomeDipshit says... #16

I'm thinking of trying out Whisperwood Elemental + more elves as well.

April 14, 2017 9:21 p.m.

Matrixxx999 says... #17

Hi!

As for cuts, I agree with all the above, and I would cut - Titania's Song, Relic of Progenitus

April 14, 2017 10:07 p.m.

SomeDipshit says... #18

Forbidden Orchard! Dood sweet secret tech.

April 14, 2017 11:59 p.m.

SomeDipshit says... #19

Dood those are all fucking sweet suggestions, thanks.

April 15, 2017 midnight

Matrixxx999 says... #20

Always glad to help! :)

April 15, 2017 1:02 a.m.

SomeDipshit says... #21

Like tbh marry me

April 15, 2017 1:13 a.m.

Matrixxx999 says... #22

Sorry man, I'm already married. :p

April 15, 2017 1:49 a.m.

PartyJ says... #23

Polygamy is not forbidden everywhere :p

April 15, 2017 6:28 a.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #24

cracks knuckles

Needs a Natural Order, Worldly Tutor, Blasphemous Act, Sol Ring, Mana Vault, and possibly Lurking Predators. These should probably go in over other non-creatures (to keep the creature count as high as possible, and avoid Ruric's punishment). Also, Lightning Greaves over Swiftfoot Boots.

Another neat combo to fetch with Defense of the Heart and friends is Xenagos, God of Revels and Blightsteel Colossus (both of which could merit slots here on their own). Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger is the best thing to Natural Order for, as well.

If you're strictly using Wheels for hand disruption, I'd use Winds of Change instead. Giving people cards with Wheel of Fortune and friends is always REALLY risky.

Why all of the MLD? I'd cut Wildfire, Destructive Force, and Jokulhaups. While I'm not one of those people who always abhor MLD, it just doesn't seem to fit here, and you could use the slots better? The only one I'd probably keep is Decree of Annihilation, because you can cycle it will a strong board state to secure your victory.

I'm going to punctuate this for emphasis: You. Need. More. Card. Draw. Harmonize, Rishkar's Expertise, et cetera. Wheels don't count, because they are usually massive card disadvantage if you can't out-tempo your opponents with the new cards.

Overall, though, seems like a good deck! Hope this was helpful! :)

April 15, 2017 12:09 p.m. Edited.

sonnet666 says... #25

MLD is great for aggro because it basically puts everybody else on pause while you attack them to death. Basically every deck that aims to win though combat damage should have it IMO.

That being said, why no Boom/Bust or Winter Orb? I don't really see what Wildfire or Destructive Force have going for them other than clearing out blockers, and in a creature based deck that usually means clearing out half of your own board too.

As for draw, I don't know PartyJ recommended cutting Regal Force and Shamanic Revelation. Those two, along with Collective Unconscious, are some of green's best tools for picking up large chunks of your deck. This deck isn't tokens though, so I'm not sure how much gas you were getting out of these. If you were drawing less than 6 cards on average than they're not worth it and you should go with power based draw. Rishkar's Expertise is a beautiful card, but there's also Soul's Majesty, Life's Legacy, and Momentous Fall. Also Abzan Beastmaster, Elemental Bond, and Garruk's Packleader are oft-overlooked gems for creature based decks.

Don't play Harmonize. It's like wonderbread. It's such a staple that everyone thinks of it, but there are tons of better options. Acidic Slime is the same way.

April 15, 2017 1:07 p.m.

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