freezerboy says... #3
No problem...though I think you should take a look at the banned list.
http://mtgcommander.net/rules.php
It's under the "deck construction" tab, and you'll see that Yawgmoth's Bargain is also on the list.
September 29, 2014 5:09 p.m.
griffstick says... #5
Since you have nothing but zombies why not play grave betrayal with Call to the Grave
November 9, 2014 7:58 p.m.
griffstick says... #6
Alot of thesr cards say "when" and "whenever" or "at" why not try Strionic Resonator
November 9, 2014 8:11 p.m.
griffstick says... #8
Endless Ranks of the Dead + Strionic Resonator . How about Cauldron of Souls since your deck is all about death and sacrificing. Then you would be able to sac the same creature twice pair it up with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and you can sac the same creature 3 times.
November 10, 2014 1:18 a.m.
NoSoyYucateco says... #9
Endless Ranks of the Dead can be a little slow, I have found, and by the time four players have taken their turn, there is a good chance it will have been dealt with. I like the idea of pairing it with Strionic Resonator, which would also be useful with quite a few other cards I have in here. I will think it over and do some playtesting!
Cauldron of Souls would be pretty sick in here, especially if I went with Endless Ranks of the Dead. Thanks for the suggestions, griffstick and Felixlives!
November 10, 2014 3:19 a.m.
NoSoyYucateco says... #10
By the way, I am finding that this deck is pretty crammed, and I am down to 33 lands, which has been fine so far, but it is definitely on the low side. Any ideas as to what could be taken out?
November 10, 2014 3:22 a.m.
MisterTweetums says... #11
November 10, 2014 6:58 a.m.
griffstick says... #12
Graveborn Muse, Gempalm Polluter, Carrion Feeder for 3 swamp
November 10, 2014 10:42 a.m.
NoSoyYucateco says... #13
griffstick: Hmmm... I don't know if I want to remove any of those, though. Graveborn Muse is a ridiculous draw engine, and she's easy to get rid of with all of the sac outlets if it turns out she might kill me. Gempalm Polluter is probably the one I am most tempted to remove, but he can easily kill a player when I cycle him (since cycle can't be countered.) Carrion Feeder can be an instant-speed board wipe in conjunction with Grave Pact or Dictate of Erebos. Mana hasn't really been a concern for me thus far. I know 33 is low by commander standards, but I've got enough ramp and draw engine here, and plenty of ways of not paying the mana cost on creatures that I have been able to get away with it just fine so far.
November 12, 2014 11:32 p.m.
MisterTweetums says... #14
Why aren't you using Zombie Apocalypse or Living Death?
November 15, 2014 9:39 a.m.
NoSoyYucateco says... #15
MisterTweetums: Good question. Zombie Apocalypse only brings back zombies (not all of my creatures are zombies), and destroys all humans (some of my creatures are, in fact humans, including Gisa.)
As for Living Death, you need to kind of build a deck around that card (think things like Bojuka Bog and Crypt Incursion to empty your opponents' graveyards. Since I am milling in this deck with Mindcrank and Altar of the Brood, it could be very bad for me to cast Living Death since I am cramming my opponents' graveyards with creatures too. That's why Rise of the Dark Realms and the various creature snatching cards like Bone Dancer are a better fit for this build.
November 15, 2014 1:40 p.m.
33 lands seems really low for an EDH deck, especially one without much card draw or ramp. I would cut a few of the big spells you don't need for reanimating like Maalfeld Twins (the flavor loss though!), Painful Quandary, Army of the Damned and try to get up to 36 lands. More Swamps make Crypt Ghast better!
Making your opponents discard their hands is a sweet play from black EDH decks. I recommend Stronghold Rats over Putrid Imp or Grotesque Hybrid, and suggest fitting a Sadistic Hypnotist and Mindslicer in here somewhere.
November 16, 2014 10:59 a.m.
slovakattack says... #17
Dude, I knew the second Gisa was spoiled that you'd love her. I like your video, it's really informative!
November 16, 2014 11:18 a.m.
NoSoyYucateco says... #20
hubatish: Yeah, I was just playing around with this last night, got it down to 33 lands, and was too tired to figure out what the solution was. Oddly enough, the card I was most tempted to remove was Painful Quandary, but I saw that card absolutely destroy a Narset, Enlightened Master deck (which happens to be what my brother-in-law is building at the moment and is floating around my LGS quite a bit, though all it takes is for her to turn over an Erase and the quandary is gone.) My other reasoning for Painful Quandary is that EDH thrumming stone storm decks (such as the Shadowborn Apostle one) appear to be making something of a comeback. I am taking it out for now but I may find a way to try and work it back in. I think I will take out Maalfeld Twins for now to bring me up to 34, and see how that goes, even though he is my best sac fodder for Gisa.
As for Putrid Imp and Grotesque Hybrid, the flying can be a life saver (especially with the hybrid's deathtouch). Though Stronghold Rats looks really badass.
slovakattack: Long time to see! So glad to hear from you. I am pretty much playing nothing but EDH and modern these days.
November 16, 2014 2:33 p.m.
Iboxbears1 says... #21
I redid my old Grimgrin, Corpse-Born edh deck to mono black. Soulless One with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed made for an interesting win.
November 16, 2014 2:36 p.m.
slovakattack says... #22
Hey man, same here! I put Modern on the backburner for awhile, as I have 4-5 cards left to complete my Gifts deck, and they're all impending reprints! My friends and I decided to split the full set of the new Commander decks (I got white), so I'm having a lot of fun with EDH atm!
Your build looks great. A few cards that I would suggest however, are
A. Mimic Vat: This thing is -nuts-, and helps your zombie engine immensely. There's almost no limit to what this thing can do. Stealing your opponent's creatures is just mean, but that's just the start. Example: Exile Soulless One, and use Gisa to square the number of zombies you have on the field each turn. Exile Gary, and get -that- mess out every turn. Exile Unbreathing Horde, and have an effect similar to Souless One. It That Betrays, Rune-Scarred Demon, Royal Assassin... You have so many creatures whose effects activating every turn just breaks the game, it's great!
B. Lightning Greaves: Gisa is awesome. More protection for Gisa is awesome. Haste for Gisa is awesome. This could def. use a slot (in addition to swiftfoot boots)
C. Bloodchief Ascension: Tends to get more and more broken the more people you play with. It's just a generally good card, even though it doesn't 100% synergize with your build.
Also, I loved your video!
November 16, 2014 2:38 p.m.
NoSoyYucateco says... #23
slovakattack: Those are all brilliant suggestions! I was running Bloodchief Ascension in my Oloro deck and found that it tended to get removed really quickly, but with a CMC of 1, it's just such an easy card to thrown in any black deck. I will weasel it back in here! I have a playset from a mill deck I was working on that never happened.
The other two suggestions you have are just inspired. I am planning on replacing Swiftfoot Boots with Lightning Greaves when I get paid next, though I do like the idea of running both (I do that in the Vish Kal deck I'm working on, Too Many Cooks.
November 16, 2014 2:51 p.m.
JJones1090 says... #24
I finally decided to pick up the black 2014 commander deck after watching people play at my lgs. I'm a new player, and the discussion here has inspired me to make a similar build.
One card I've been looking at is Coat Of Arms. The likelihood of having the perfect combo out is probably slim, but if you do the results seem staggering.
Thanks for your thoughts!
December 5, 2014 7:09 p.m.
griffstick says... #25
Maybe Altar of Shadows for mana and destroy, Brainspoil for tutor or destroy... and if you think you can make it work with the way your pumping out tokens and what not try Culling Scales... Rathi Assassin just another creature you can consider... Tombstone Stairwell another really cool card... and finaly what may work good for you too since you can make a ton of tokens and what not Descent into Madness. I suggest all these. Not for you to stick in there right away but to consider putting them in there. Cause i like the deck and theres not much i would change. You have also inspired me to make a gisa build.
freezerboy says... #1
Recurring Nightmare is banned, so you'll prob want to take it out of your maybeboard. Gate to Phyrexia is also a handy card to have to destroy artifacts. I know black has some trouble with enchantment and artifact removal so I've had them come in handy many times. Phyrexian Tower is also handy for getting more mana and utilizing a sac outlet.
September 29, 2014 5:25 a.m.