Mazirek Sac-Storm: The *Primer* of Life & Death
Commander / EDH
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If I had a Doubling Season, I would totally run it alongside Primal Vigor. Seems fun.
Volrath's Stronghold is great, but I happened to own it already. Not sure if its all that necessary, but its good in the deck.
Swarmyard is a good looking protection effect since Mazirek is public enemy #1, but I've never used it personally. I guess Yavimaya Hollow is better anyways.
Link your version here once you assemble it I'm curious to see how it ends up.
April 10, 2018 12:43 p.m.
generalrenard says... #3
Earthcraft plus some more emphasis on basic lands so that all your creatures, including the token creatures, tap for mana without needing haste to grind out more value? Makes Eldrazi Scions and Spawn make 2 mana? Also, what are your Protean Hulk lines usually when someone runs hulk (generally with Flash) they have a specifc few creatures they run to win? Speaking of winning, how do you win? Combat?
September 12, 2018 11:19 p.m.
After viewing the cards from new Golgari guild, it seems like Mazirek now has a wife - Izoni, Thousand-Eyed. What do you think about it?
September 25, 2018 6:24 a.m.
Oh yeah, Izoni's already been preordered for a while :) I'm super excited for Guilds of Ravnica, a few cards from it will definitely make their way in. Once the cards are in my hand physically I'll update the list but I also bought a Midnight Reaper already. Vraska, Golgari Queen is perfect too but the preorders were over priced so I'm gonna wait on buying her.
September 25, 2018 8:35 a.m.
Plaguecrafter seems like a perfect fit as well, if it has not caught your eye. Also, you may have mentioned it, but why is Titania, Protector of Argoth not part of the deck?
September 25, 2018 9:12 a.m.
Totally, Plaguecrafter is another one I preordered for this deck the other day...I really like effects like that. So much that I already paid for 4 copies to put into various commander decks.
Titania is a powerful token generator for sure. I don't have a copy currently. I decided to focus on less mana costed token makers, things more like Blisterpod. She has been on my radar to try out in here for a while however. In builds that have more fetch lands she is a little more impactful too. Some people push toward the land sacrificing angle more than I have, including cards like Squandered Resources or Scapeshift. Which are all cool ideas using cards that I don't own currently. I'll keep an eye out for a copy of Titania, it does seem like she would probably be great.
Thanks for all the great suggestions!
September 25, 2018 10:31 a.m.
Why does persist crest an infinite loop? Do you have a way to remove the -1/-1 counter that I am missing?
November 25, 2018 8:25 a.m.
If a +1/+1 counter and a -1/-1 counter is on the same creature at the same time they cancel each other out and are both removed as part of a state based effect. It's in the rules somewhere, I didn't make it up...but I don't remember exactly what rule number it is.
November 25, 2018 8:46 a.m.
I never knew that. I feel like I need to make a deck to play with it. Sweet deck dude.
November 25, 2018 9:23 a.m.
Daedalus19876 says... #11
I'm super happy to see Vraska, Golgari Queen fit into another deck! She's so fun, and I've killed people multiple times using player deathtouch.
January 9, 2019 4:51 p.m.
Have you considered Black Sun's Zenith before? A few counters on your creatures will prevent them from dying, and all of the death's resulting from having toughness reduced to 0 or less are additional sacrifice triggers.
February 4, 2019 11:23 p.m.
Spacebeest says... #13
Nice write-up! Probably took some good time to type it all down.
I did have to sort your deck on type instead of your custom types to make some sence of it though ;)
I’ve been working on a meren deck with a similar sacrifice idea for a couple of years now, though the plan is a bit different they here I do have some suggestions and tips based on my experience with the archetype.
There are probably some cards here that have been mentioned before or have been tested, so sorry for that.
sac outlets are the bread and butter of these types of deck. You always need one in play or the deck falls short (this is also one of the weak point that you can attack these decks on). Some sac outlets that I haven’t seen mentioned yet:
1)
Evolutionary Leap
. Except that it’s not a free sac outlet I think one of the best out there!
2)
Spawning Pit
. One of my favorites, create more tokens from sacing creatures and it’s free to activate. Also it can quite easily go infinite with
Doubling Season
3)
Attrition
. It’s probably mentioned somewhere her and I probably looked over it because everyone knows this.
4)
Altar of Dementia
. Better in meren then it’s here but still has its uses if you want to go with an infinite combo.
5)
Culling Dais
. Value
6)
Dark Privilege
. Protection of commander and outlet in one.
7)
Fallen Ideal
. Recurring outlet is always nice.
8)
Yahenni, Undying Partisan
. Indestructible outlet.
9)
Helm of Possession
. If people are going big.
10)
Plagued Rusalka
. If people are going wide.
11)
Claws of Gix
. Can sac any permanent and is the cheapest outlet ever made.
Some utility creatures:
12)
Wirewood Herald
. This is one of my favorite fun cards in my deck. Your already playing a few good other elves (rec sage, izoni, wood elves, elvish visionary) so I definitely suggest adding this one!
13)
Viridian Emissary
and
Primal Druid
are all stars in my deck. Might be useful here over some of the 3 mana ramp creatures?? (Emissary is a bit better because of clamp, and it’s an elf).
14)
Golgari Findbroker
. Witness #2, also it’s an elf.
15)
Sengir Autocrat
and
Mitotic Slime
. These cards give 4 and 7 sacrifices respectively. They are some of the payoff cards that I use. Especially fond of autocrat since it works with savra and skullclamp very well.
16)
Reassembling Skeleton
. Another one of my payoff cards, and can get nuts of I have a good board. Also there are few ways to go infinite with this one (there is a 4 card combo with this in your deck right now).
17)
Savra, Queen of the Golgari
. It’s an elf and since it’s a creature its easier to tutor then an enchantment. The life gain is also nice!
And one more random card that doesn’t belong in above categories:
18)
Foster
. At 4 mana a bit expensive but boy what value this card can give!
Some of the cars you tested and took out I’d like to comment on. I find them very very useful and would probably never cut them in my deck:
19)
Fecundity
. This card is the best card in my deck, the only time it’s not great is when I’m playing against weenies or people are trading creatures with each other without me having a board presents. I don’t really care if people draw a card if I kill there 6 mana creatures because it still slows them down. What’s so good about this card that It provides us with a great amount of value. This card draws of tokens which is awesome and most of the creatures your running give to sac triggers anyway. In 90% the cases this card will generate more value for us then for other players.
20)
Deathreap Ritual
. The only reason I’d ever cut this card is the mana cost, which at 4 is a bit expensive. You however stated the reason for excluding this card is the lack of value. I’d like to point out that Morbid doesn’t only trigger at the end of your turn but at the end of EVERY turn. It also triggers when any creature dies, so it doesn’t have to be yours and, like fecundity, it triggers of tokens dying to!! In a four player game this card can give an easy 4 cards a round.
21)
Golgari Germination
. I like this mostly because I play above mentioned cards which benefit hugely from tokens dying, but even without this it’s a great card rewarding you for any sacrifice and being an enchantment it’s a bit more durable as well.
22)
Sakura-Tribe Elder
. At two mana and a build in sac outlet this card is a cheap ramp spell that functions at all time and can provide value even if you don’t have a sac outlet in play. But if you have experienced trough testing that you get more value out of a 3 drop ramp creature then it might be different for your deck compared to meren.
Hereby I end my epistle with a last note that if your looking to take out some card I’d look at everything above 4 mana and everything with X in the mana cost. I find I always take out these in the end since I can’t cast them reliably. (5 drops stay when they are very good for the deck though).
February 16, 2019 11:20 a.m.
Thanks for the suggestions Spacebeest. You are right I've either actually tried or genuinely considered all them... except for Helm of Possession . And its a pretty fun sounding idea. I'll have to think about how to add it in. Thanks :)
February 16, 2019 11:46 a.m.
Woodfall Primus, Aerie Ouphes, Animation Module are all infinite combos with Mazirek.
Add Bloodspore Thrinax to build a heavy threat and also as a back-up infinite combo creature for persist if mazirek is removed
March 7, 2019 10:41 a.m.
In addition, you can get good use from Pitiless Plunderer as it allows you to get mana like phyrexian altar, but as an additional effect from any method you use to kill your creatures
March 7, 2019 10:49 a.m.
Hey thanks for the suggestions!
However I'm not interested in focusing on making the deck combo off with infinite combos every game. Actually I find winning that way pretty unsatisfying and I generally avoid it with my play group. I do have a single persist creature in the deck, but it's more of an emergency backup than the primary plan.
The plunderer was ok in practice, but it was cut for a card that made creature tokens or drew cards I think.
March 7, 2019 11:28 a.m. Edited.
Just wanted to say I really love the deck as it operates somewhat similarly to my own. Especially with all the cantrip creatures which is not something you see with a lot of these other Golgari builds.
Great deck and greta build. I look forward to seeing how you continue to make it improve in the future. :)
April 7, 2019 12:08 p.m.
Hey, I'm looking at upgrading my Mazirek deck and found this well explained Primer.
Wondering if its worth running Moldervine Reclamation from M20? The fact it works for tokens too seems to mitigate the downside of being 5 mana.
July 16, 2019 4:28 p.m.
Sorry for the 2nd post but also Lazotep Reaver could replace one of the other fodder cards, seeing as its 2 bodies for 2 mana?
July 16, 2019 4:30 p.m.
Have you had trouble with your mana base only having six basic lands?
I noticed you were only running 6 and yet you've got Springbloom Druid , Myriad Landscape , Primal Growth , Farhaven Elf , Wood Elves , Terramorphic Expanse , Verdant Catacombs , and Evolving Wilds . I'd imagine running out of basic lands to search for could easily become common. Especially when cards like the Landscape, Druid and Growth all search for 2.
Personally I opted to cut most of the dual lands that entered the battlefield tapped from my own deck as I found it helped the deck be a bit faster and I never found that I was struggling to mana fix as it's only a two coloured deck and the deck naturally has several cards to search for lands as is so fixing always came easily.
July 20, 2019 4:53 p.m.
Sweech Thanks for the comment, I had not noticed that yet myself! But even though I haven't experienced issues I still just upped the basic count anyways. I think the basic ramping has slowly increased in number while the actual basics decreased in number over time. I just love ramp and dual lands I guess.
September 11, 2019 1:08 a.m.
oc616 I wouldn't recommend running Moldervine Reclamation just because a typical Mazirek deck doesn't have many ways to get rid of it if necessary. If you lock yourself out of a win because you'd kill yourself in the process, it becomes a waste really quick
September 17, 2019 1:30 p.m.
Hey oc616, Sorry I missed your comments earlier!
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Moldervine Reclamation is a fine include for a fair Mazirek deck. I'm a big proponent of having at least a handful of effects that trigger card draw when a creature dies. That being said this isn't necessarily the most efficient one to cast (which is why its not in my list) but it is cheap to purchase which is great. If you are doing an infinite combo Loop then it can cause an issue with you milling out, but if you're just playing a fair game the fact that it doesn't say may on it doesn't matter.
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Lazotep Reaver is a fine piece of fodder. If you look at the ones that I'm using in my list, it's just a tiny bit less useful/efficient than similar ones I'm using for various reasons. But I would not fault you for including it if that's what you've got. You need to have a decent amount of fodder for the deck have the fuel it needs.
Thanks for the ideas everyone! It's been such a fun deck for me to play and I'm glad other people are working on it and playing it too!!
September 18, 2019 8:40 a.m.
DINOSAURS65556 says... #25
Yo, I came out of building a simic +1/+1 counter deck, and the Hardened Scales is a beast. I don't know if you want this deck to win of combat damage, or if this deck is already efficient enough it doesn't need it, but either way...
Bacon_Rules_Supreme says... #1
Couple more things. Sorry to horde so much of your decklist's comments... :/
I got my hands on a Doubling Season. Is it worth it to run two of the effects? Should I keep Primal Vigor in? The deck isn't together yet, just trying to get an idea from your own experiences.
Volrath's Stronghold. How important is it? I'll probably find one in the future but for now I don't have access.
Swarmyard is protection for the commander. Should I run it alongside the Safekeeper, or instead?
Thanks for everything!
April 3, 2018 6:46 p.m.