TheFanatic says... #3
@tendouji Good suggestion, I've added it to the maybe board. What I really want in this deck is a Damnation, but my only copy is elsewhere.
@DocMC I originally ran both Fleshbag Marauder and Merciless Executioner, but I decided to just go for Fleshbag Marauder for now due to space constraints.
@BX223Hunter Gaea's Cradle is and probably always will be out of my price range, but I've added the rest to my maybe board and will trade for them if I can get extra copies (they are in another deck).
@Bganoko I have considered it, but it's really just a big fatty with no evasion when Jarad isn't around so it doesn't make the cut.
@wagnerr2 Wake the Dead is very fun, but right now I don't feel like I actually have enough ways to fill the graveyard to properly abuse it. It's in the maybe board for now. Maybe if I can get my hands on another Survival of the Fittest or something it will make the cut.
@DrownBot Yes, I've considered Greater Good but I'm concerned that the majority of my creatures are too small for it to be really great. I put it in the maybe board for now, and it will probably make the cut later on.
@Omega505 Whisperwood Elemental is in the maybe board because it has excellent synergy with the deck, and I'm probably going to add it instead of Mycoloth since it is more resistant to removal and is a better reanimation target.
December 23, 2015 11:27 a.m.
I got you there but with Greater good and bolas lord of extinction can just win the game by drawing 20+ cards.
Also maybe consider a secondary win condition if you can fit it in of Sadistic hypnotist and Nath of the gilt leaf. With the amount of tutors you play shouldn't be that hard to get them out on the board with meren. Also lets you go wide.
As for your maybe board I would highly suggest Survival of the fittest, greater good, and replace a land for Tower.
How is the the loom and dredging strategy working for you? I removed it from my Meren deck for more impact creatures. I see you don't have some of the obvious combos with mikaeus other than clique and primus. Do you just not want to play Triskelion/mikaeus, triskelion/phyrexian devour/necrotic ooze, phyrexian devour/Jarad combos? I get it if you don't want to play those for the more fun version of commander. I don't know if clique and woodfall are all that much better though so that is why i asked it lol.
Anyway man I really like the deck and it gave me some solid ideas as well. I will have to post my version up soon on this site.
December 26, 2015 4:59 p.m.
TheFanatic says... #5
I'm going to try to get my hands on a Greater Good, I think you are right and that it should be in my list. Lord of Extinction will probably make the cut only once I get a copy of Greater Good.
As I've previously stated, Survival of the Fittest and Phyrexian Tower are not in the deck right now because they are both expensive and hard to find. I'm trying to avoid spending a bunch of money on this deck, so I'm leaving them out for now until my LGS picks up some copies and I can use my store credit.
I like the dredge cards, Life from the Loam in particular. It's especially great with the cycling lands. Golgari Grave-Troll hasn't been incredible, but it's certainly good and I think I will leave it in here for now.
I'm not playing the Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Triskelion combo (and similar combos) because they are boring and the card don't do anything outside of the combo. Puppeteer Clique, Mikaeus, the Unhallowed, and Woodfall Primus are all excellent outside of the infinite combos, so they're in the deck. I don't like playing bad cards just for the sake of having another infinite combo. This isn't a combo deck anyway, it's all about value.
Thanks for your suggestions.
December 28, 2015 5:55 p.m.
I think Massacre Wurm would also be really good in here too for token decks.
Beast Within in my opinion is a must for every green deck because it gets rid of any permanent in an emergency
Fertilid + Ob Nixilis, Unshackled is funny to pull off, while being good individually too as there are many tutors happening in edh.
December 29, 2015 2:08 a.m.
Some things to consider are Dryad Arbor since you can sack it and bring it back with meren with 0 counters early. If you do run it consider Green Sun's Zenith. It also taps and sacks to evolutionary leap for a creature if you need it. Nothing huge just an option as well as going wide with craterhoof.
Green Warden Mursa seems weak to me that is a lot of mana to dump for that effect. I would look at Woodland Bellower seems like a much stronger ETB effect. As well as Massacre Wurm since you can cast him sack him then bring him back with meren and do -4/-4 and nuke any token players. Again this all depends on your meta just some ideas.
Farhaven Elf Searches for a swamp where wood elves just search for forest something to keep in mind. One other thing is Altar of Dementia. It is basically card draw in this deck and if you do end up running Lord of Extinction you can potentially set up a huge Jarad bomb or mill someone to death. If you get the Mikaeus infinite sack with puppeteer you can also mill the entire table. Just some interesting thoughts GL man.
January 7, 2016 5:17 a.m.
why no phyrexian altar to go infinite?
I would personally add
mind slicer x1phyrexian altar x1survival o the fittest x1phyrexian tower x1zulaport cutthroat x1
i would take outjarad, golgari lichlord x1jarad's orders x1Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest x1puppeteer clique x1any land you see fit x1
this makes you a lower curve, and you get a combo.
January 9, 2016 10:10 p.m.
What about Strionic Resonator? It's a cheap way of getting Meren's recursion twice per turn.
January 11, 2016 10:38 p.m.
TheFanatic says... #12
@FloPStaR I find that Smokestack is a generally unfun card, and by the time I can feed it it is often too late in the game to matter anyway.
@Bganoko I did consider Dryad Arbor for this deck, but I've never really been happy with the card when I've played it in other decks due to the fact that it's a land that dies to sweepers and can't immediately tap for mana. Also, I like Greenwarden of Murasa because it provides redundancy -- having only one Eternal Witness effect really isn't enough in a deck like this. It's also got a reasonably sized body for Greater Good.
@lastturn Phyrexian Tower and Survival of the Fittest are on my to-get list, but right now they're too expensive to warrant be buying them and nobody has Pucatraded them to me. Also, you are suggesting that I take out a bunch of combo pieces in favor of more combo pieces that are less consistent. Thank you for your suggestions, but I think I will pass.
@CkajLanoa That's a really cool idea that I hadn't thought of. I'll add it to the maybe board.
@Casey4321 No. Living Death is also a sweeper, as is Pernicious Deed. Grave Pact and Dictate of Erebos are also sweepers in the right circumstances.
January 20, 2016 12:12 p.m.
Jimmy_Chinchila says... #13
Looks pretty strong, +1.
Pelakka Wurm and Thragtusk have nice triggers for abusing. Creakwood Liege good for making tokens to sac and powering them up to. Reaper of the Wilds is resilient and can help filter draws. Parallel Lives and Doubling Season can increase your tokens if going that route.
January 21, 2016 1:47 p.m.
I have tried both combo's and you say this one is less reliable i would argue against this. It is a lot more reliable, but i would also say that depends on your playgroup. plus yours is a lot easier disrupted against spot removal. Mine might take a piece extra but is more reliable and a lot easier to combo with against everybody. Like i said i have probably played this deck more but we are each entitled to our own opinion
January 24, 2016 6:31 a.m.
How do you like Craterhoof Behemoth in this deck? Does it finish a lot for you? I get some success out of it in mine but usually as a secondary or third finisher was thinking about replacing it for some more fodder like Bitterblossom.
Also if you do keep playing it what would you think of a card like Life//Death over animate dead? The draw back is you take life to animate but you also have life for when you can birthing pod out craterhoof or something and make it a for sure game ender.
January 27, 2016 6:11 a.m.
TheFanatic says... #16
@Bganoko Craterhoof Behemoth is great here. It's useful for turning a board state full of weenies into a kill condition. I wouldn't recommend removing it.
I used to play Life/Death but Life is just way too risky, and Death is just a worse Reanimate. I think the whole Craterhoof/Life interaction is just way too fringe to be relevant.
February 1, 2016 10:03 p.m.
Have you considered Blade of Selves? You seem to have a number of creatures with ETB effects that can be abused with myriad. The tokens can also be fodder for sacrificing prior to the end of combat, if you wish.
February 8, 2016 7:40 p.m.
akromaangelofkickyouinthedick says... #19
Liliana of the Veil or Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip seem like they would fit well in this deck, especially the latter. +1 from me!
February 15, 2016 12:14 p.m.
I'm not totally sure what you could take out for it, but It That Betrays seems like a killer card for Meren decks. Always gonna +1 a fellow Meren deck! Check out mine Meren, The Caller of Scions for what, so far, seems like a unique idea for her
February 16, 2016 10:39 p.m.
+1 for Meren and being a well constructed deck. You have some of the cards I am still saving up for in mine. Feel free to check out my Meren build here.
February 23, 2016 11 a.m.
So how do you usually win with Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest? It seems like he is missing consistent fodder. It might be my meta because the board gets wiped more often but as is I see him as a second mikaeus for woodfall in this deck? Which doesn't seem to bad, but you have him as a finisher where mikaeus wasn't. I just feel its rather optimistic to have him out and a grave pact and things to sac to an outlet. Anyway just wondering if i missed something.
February 25, 2016 7:41 p.m.
Squirrel_of_War says... #23
Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest goes infinite with a sac outlet and a persist creature like Puppeteer Clique or Woodfall Primus.
February 26, 2016 6:58 p.m.
I would suggest Nim Deathmantle for the infinite combos it powers when mixed with Ashnod's Altar+ Avenger of Zendikar as well as being a great way to abuse etb triggers and protect important creatures. Overall I love your deck and would appreciate if you checked mine out... Meren goddess of death and rebirth
+1
February 28, 2016 11:35 a.m.
TheFanatic says... #25
@Bganoko As Squirrel_of_War said, Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest goes infinite with a persister and a free sacrifice outlet. I've moved Mikaeus, the Unhallowed to the "Finishers" category to be more consistent.
@trobaldo I'm actually trying to keep a small number of infinite combos in here, as they're not very fun but they're great for ending extremely drawn-out games. I appreciate the suggestion, though.
Omega505 says... #2
Ok, you have Whisperwood Elemental in Maybeboard, because?
December 23, 2015 5:20 a.m.