Metamorphosis [[Primer in the Making]]
Modern*
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Anonymous8, I believe you just described the deck as it first was. I think Proteus Staff is a waste of a slot, not only hindering the curve, but flat out unnecessary. with all the cycling i'll be doing, i won't have trouble finding Polymorph. but thanks for commenting anyway! also a question: What card should i use rather than Progenitus and besides emrakul (too expensive)
July 23, 2016 1:52 p.m.
Anonymous8 says... #3
You could look into Blightsteel Colossus, Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth, and maybe even Emrakul, the Promised End. I think Proteus Staff belongs in these kinds of decks. It's harder to get rid of it once it resolves and if they manage to get rid of all of your Polymorph through Surgical Extraction or other cards of like then you have another chance. While it does take a little longer to activate it's still worth it in my opinion.
July 23, 2016 2:54 p.m.
i mean, Anonymous8, i would only need to use polymorph once, so if they do manage to extract it, it won't matter. But thanks for the other giants! I will give them a try
July 23, 2016 4:30 p.m.
Anonymous8 says... #5
You may need to use it more than once though. A lot of people run counter spells in Modern and Proteus Staff's ability pretty much can't be countered after it resolves unless it's removed from the board. Progenitus can die from board wipes as well so you may have to use it more than once, just saying.
July 23, 2016 11:47 p.m.
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn is better than brogenitus.. When i played Polymorph i used Mutavault as a target, could aswell have been Blinkmoth Nexus. The biggest problem with Polymorph is that they can remove your token as a response and Polymorph fizzles.. I like how you use Cloudform to counter this. Another target with hexproof is Simic Keyrune. Its actually really nice, you can tap itself for the green mana so you dont need a splash.
See Beyond is nice if you get your fatty in your hand. The new land Geier Reach Sanitarium does this as well without taking up a spot, allowing you to play more control. Any draw + discard effect shuffles your fatty into your library, I don't know if See Beyond is your best choice..
Index is a bad card, and Dissolve is a bit pricey for a counterspell. May i suggest Peer Through Depths (much better if you have an instant/sorcery token generator tho..)? If you splash red you have access to Izzet Charm that both counters and lets you discard your fatty. Faithless Looting is another red card that would help you out alot, and if you decide to splash red you have access to Dragon Fodder that you can get with Peer Through Depths.
July 24, 2016 8:38 a.m.
ok, smackjack I think that progenitus is better than emrakul purely for the phrase "protection from everything", while emrakul can be hit by Brittle Effigy or Scour from Existence. but i will try that land you mentioned, and replace See Beyond with Simic Keyrune. also, what would you recommend replacing for Index and Dissolve?
July 24, 2016 8:46 a.m.
Do you have alot of Brittle Effigy and Scour from Existence in your meta?
I would replace Index and Dissolve with Remand and either Dispel, Vapor Snag or Serum Visions
July 24, 2016 8:55 a.m.
smackjack i don't, but i will be playing them in my SB for matches that are like "I play emrakul! I Win!".
I would like to avoid playing Remand because of the cost, and because of the price. do you have any suggestions as to what cards that are similar to Index that i could use?
July 24, 2016 9:05 a.m.
Anonymous8 says... #10
Index really isn't that good to be honest. You should try Serum Visions instead because of the draw and you can decide if you want the top 2 cards. Remand is actually quite cheap at the moment, cheaper than Disrupting Shoal, and it could in fact replace Disrupting Shoal. Dissolve actually does really well in modern so I would recommend on keeping it. You might want to look into Telling Time.
July 24, 2016 11:14 a.m.
Anonymous8, Remand i don't think is a good spell, because it just stalls the opponent's spell, it doesn't put it away. Telling Time is amazing though. I will definitely put it in here.
July 24, 2016 12:47 p.m.
Wurmlover I think you need to play with Remand to fully appreciate it. I argued the same as you before i got mine, and boy was i wrong. Most of the time they will not be able to cast the thing you Remand again the same turn AND you get to draw. Early game it feels almost like Time Walk ;p. You can also use it to "counter" your own Polymorph if something goes wrong (they counter or removal) so you get it back +1 card. Remand their Kitchen Finks and suddenly they need to spend a total of 6 mana to cast it and you get to draw. Thats a temposwing that could change the game. Its specially good in combo decks like this where you really only need to stall and draw until you get you combo pieces..
Do not underestimate Remand :).
July 24, 2016 3:36 p.m. Edited.
Anonymous8 says... #13
Remand does a lot actually. Setting combo decks back even one turn can ruin their whole plan and it creates a lot of advantage for you. Just because it puts back in their hand doesn't mean it's not affective. I would bring up to 4. Cryptic Command may be worth looking into as well.
July 24, 2016 7:17 p.m.
Hi! T1GlistenerElf here!
I'm glad to see my strategy getting some love in this budget brew. I do have a few suggestions nonetheless. While Sickleslicer is interesting, if you're going to play with the tempo backup plan (which I highly recommend and commend you for doing here,) then Batterskull is the way to go. With the amount of card draw in your deck, I would be surprised if you can't get to five mana on curve. It's not a budget choice, but if you do as I did, then you'll only need to run one anyway, especially since it can keep coming back.
Secondly, Vedalken Shackles would be a great way to slow the opponent down and to create a target for your Polymorphs. Since you run so many Islands, this can quickly get to the point of being able to take >95% of most decks's creatures.
I would go up to four Anticipates (by going down one Telling Time) and maybe find a replacement for the remaining Telling Times; they didn't treat my deck well when I tried it, since it's rare that you'll want more than one card that you find in your top three. My recommendation for replacing Telling Time is with two copies of Think Twice.
I would take out the Unsummons and replace them with Repeal, which not only draws you a card, but can bounce any nonland permanent.
I hope that these suggestions don't come across as harsh, since I really do appreciate your enthusiasm for the strategy.
July 28, 2016 12:07 a.m.
how about Flayer Husk instead of Sickleslicer? Its alot cheaper and you really only care for the germ token.
I would go up to 4 Cloudform, the hexproof is very important for Polymorph. Maybe go down 1 Runechanter's Pike as its only good late game anyways?
oh and yes Vedalken Shackles that Ninjay suggested sounds amazing! Maybe one main and 1-2 side?
July 28, 2016 11:43 a.m. Edited.
Ninjay and smackjack, i would run Vedalken Shackles, but they are so expensive. are there any budget options?
I think that Flayer Husk would be a great addition, thanks!
I think i will just trade up for a batterskull, since i have 2 Disrupting Shoals that i can trade in.
July 28, 2016 4:01 p.m.
The budget is the toughest part sometimes, to be sure. I do agree that Flayer Husk would be better than Sickleslicer, since you aren't doing much on turn one anyway and it won't compete with countermagic or with Cloudform. Additionally , as a budget alternative to Vedalken Shackles, et al., running more Cloudforms is a good choice, especially since they make it so hard to disrupt your combo. Batterskull is good as a one-of, but until you can afford them, more Cloudforms are perfectly fine.
As for Disrupting Shoal, keep that in for as long as you can. It's an underrated card in the format, and I hope that it treats you well.
July 29, 2016 1:04 p.m.
By the way, I'm very much enjoying the evolution of this deck. I hope that it treats you very well going forward, mate!
I do think that Gitaxian Probe or Thought Scour would be better than Vision Skeins, though. The reason is because Vision Skeins, while it does let you draw two cards and use them before your opponent typically can, is still relative card disadvantage. Gitaxian Probe is very expensive for a common, unfortunately, but Thought Scour has the bonus of filling your graveyard for Runechanter's Pike potentially.
July 29, 2016 1:09 p.m.
smackjack, i just checked, and it turns out that that is an illegal move. but i would have won anyway, because i had a blinkmoth as well. (and fyi, runechanter's pike is an equipment. idk if that would change it, but whatever)
July 29, 2016 8:20 p.m. Edited.
Love this idea, but I do agree with the first comment saying Gitaxian Probe instead of Peek. Well built!
August 1, 2016 3:55 p.m.
Discussions Cleared! this is comment #24 on the deck!
August 7, 2016 1:58 p.m.
please explain the snow covered lands in the deck. am i missing something?
Anonymous8 says... #1
Gitaxian Probe would be much better rather than Peek. Serum Visions rather than Anticipate so you can set up your draw. Proteus Staff would be another way to get out Progenitus. You may want to look into using another creature rather than Progenitus. Remand would probably work pretty well. Token generation other than Khalni Garden would help a lot so maybe look into splashing white for Lingering Souls, Spectral Procession, or Secure the Wastes.
July 23, 2016 1:42 p.m.