No Batterskull? Seems like it may possibly do some good.

Bovine073 i would use Batterskull, but it is still very expensive. the only reason i have Boseiju, Who Shelters All is because I found it for really (relatively) cheap in foil. it also does more good in the deck than Batterskull will.

What is the point of the new win-cons over Progenitus?

DarksteelBadger, i put the other wincons over progenitus (very reluctantly) because they are colorless. if i am in a very grindy match, and have a shit ton of mana, i can hard cast one if needed.

What is the point of Runechanter's Pike?

Draglord_Sim, in the primer, i said that it was in there as a back-up plan, in case something went wrong.

Ok, but, still, I'm sure there are better alt win cons.

Draglord_Sim, what other alt-wincons would you recommend? I use rune chanter's pike because i cantrip everywhere with this deck. by the time i need it, I Have it pumped to at least 5, so it does a considerable amount of damage.

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Why are you running It That Betrays over another Eldrazi Titan or even Progenitus? It seems like it's not the greatest fit for this deck, unless I am missing something.

Miniferg, I am just running It That Betrays to balance out the money spent on emrakul, but i might put Progenitus in, because I have one of those too. do you know any other titan that might fit?

If you are willing to wait a couple weeks, I can sell you my 2 Near Mint copies of Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre for $20 total when I get back home. Currently traveling for work.

You can definitely put them to better use than just having them sitting in my trade binder and 2x Ulamog + 1x Emrakul would be brutal in this deck. If you want references, I can link you to the MTG facebook groups I am a part of; tons of people to vouch for me. Let me know if you're interested.

So Wurmlover....I know Emrakul is obviously the best choice to Polymorph into, but it kind of ruins your backup plan, doesn't it? Unlike Progenitus, when Emmy hits the graveyard, the whole graveyard gets shuffled into the library instead of the 1 card. So are you just hoping you don't get an Emrakul in grave when you have Runechanter's? (Also just saw you took out Thought Scour. That helps a lot.)

sunawa, i see your point, but the point of this is to win while emrakul is on the field. if emrakul does die, i have a problem. would you have any suggestions as to how i could implement another, better backup plan?

I think they key to alternate Win-cons is gonna be your lands. Finding extra budget manlands, or using them to give Haste. I think a good budget option is Wandering Fumarole and the new Hanweir Battlements. Good solid bodied man land, and a way to give Emrakul Haste to make him smash face instantly.

sunawa, I decided to use Lumbering Falls for the hex proof ability. if i have a lot of mana, i can use it for polymorphing off of the land.

Consider this.. Goryo's Vengeance can reanimate Emrakul if you cast it in response to the graveyard trigger. This would require you to go black tho, and i know you want to stay mono blue. BUT if you would splash black you could play Bitterblossom and 4 Goryo's Vengeance and a couple of discard outlets. Something like turn 3 Thoughtseize yourself, discard Emrakul, the Aeons Torn cast Goryo's Vengeance swing for 15 (probably lethal because of their shocks and fetches) and remove their entire board.. Would probably require 3 Emrakul tho, unless there is something like Entomb in modern..

smackjack, do you realize how much that combo would cost me? just about doubles the price. i don't have that kind of money

Goryo's Vengeance is good, but more fun if you do the lulzy Narset combo with it. Use Serum Powder for free mulligans, then when you start with a Gemstone Caverns exiling Narset, Enlightened Master. You ALWAYS want to go second. End of opponents first turn, use Pull from Eternity to get Narset in graveyard. Your turn, Goryo's, swing with Narset, and then just have a ton of cards like Fury of the Horde, Relentless Assault, and Waves of Aggression. Non stop combat steps to a T1 win lol. (Note: This combo is JANK AS HELL, and I've only seen my friend pull it off about 40% of the time. Went 1-3 one night in modern because it went off once, then never again.)

see beyond is a nice cantrip in this kind of deck, if you draw one of your poly targets you can just shuffle it back in. i think a few peeks or anticipates could just come out for it as well. and eventually replace peek with git probe maybe? not having to pay mana for it is worth it being a sorcery

rainbowofdeath, I will eventually upgrade the Peeks, the only reason i have Serum Visions is because it was reprinted. I used to have See Beyond, but it was too expensive (CMC wise) for the deck. I need all the 1 drops i can get.

I like this budget deck and the fact you change it based off the changes you make to it in real life. +1 from me and I may see about making something like this as well (on a budget as well)

Allow me to preface this by saying that I wholly approve of you putting back in Progenitus as one of your wincons.

So Wurmlover, I just thought of another suggestion for a 3rd (& final) wincon creature. If you're not going to go for Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre as one if your additional wincons - since you wouldn't be able to capitalize on the cast trigger via Polymorph (I realized) - then why don't you give Worldspine Wurm a try?

I figured that it couldn't be a more fitting choice given your "love of wurms" - so to speak. Its massive Emrakul-sized trample power & toughness, coupled with its going wide (if it gets hit by removal) strategy, makes it seem like an excellent choice to me; especially when you consider that Runechanter's Pike combos very well with both Worldspine Wurm and its three 5/5 symbiotic Wurm tokens.

I'll be curious to see how this deck does in Modern...

Anyway, all the best to you Wurmlover!

P.S. I'm really glad you took me up on my previous advice regarding the Serum Visions; I sincerely hope that they serve you well!

P.P.S. I would have suggested Maelstrom Wanderer for some cascading of Polymorph, but sadly it isn't Modern legal.

Well it turns out that I realized this a little late.

1st: I only just saw that your background for your profile's main page is in fact Worldspine Wurm, & thus I imagine that you already considered it for this deck, but that perhaps it didn't make the cut when compared to the two wincons that you have now.

2nd: I also saw your comment on here: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/polymorph-emrakul-1/ @ the bottom of the page, which leads me to believe that you've play-tested thoroughly enough, and thus deduced that 3 "fatties" - as you put it - makes for far too many situations in which you end up having to mulligan away your first hand.

So I guess that having your wincons be only 3.33(repeating)% of your deck is better than having them be 5.0%? Does it really make THAT much of a difference though? I find it rather hard to fathom, however, you own this deck and have thoroughly tested it out, so I imagine that you would know best with regards to this matter.

Still, I can think of a few situations in which having less wincons would put you at a disadvantage, but the reality of it is that the vast majority of the modern meta doesn't play the kinds of decks that I have in mind which would create such a roadblock for you. At any rate I still think a wincon other than the Blazing Archon is worth considering for such match-ups (e.g. Lantern Control, U/B Mill, Jund, etc.).

Miniferg, When it comes to polymorph, its not necessarily an issue of mulligans, but a matter of space. If you have more then 2 fatties, then you are taking up room that could be used for counterspells, removal (if splashing black), or cycling (serum visions, sleight of hand, etc...).

And about Progenitus, I would have sold both that I had to pay for emrakul, but i pulled an Emrakul, the Promised End from a booster pack, so i only need to sell that and the other progenitus. Best $5 ever spent. Since I had one just lying around, I decided to put it back in the deck.