MagicalHacker - List of All Pillow Fort
Commander / EDH*
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MagicalHacker says... #2
I ended dropping it when I dropped all the card disadvantage ones. When a board wipe happens, falls goes away too. :/
December 21, 2017 10:07 p.m.
To be honest, If you are pillowforting, normaly you are the one with the board wipes, which means you can board wipe an then put a new creature (or even reanimate one).
Also, even if one of your opponent's do that, there is no creatures in both sides.
December 29, 2017 6:26 p.m.
MagicalHacker says... #4
The whole point behind this list is to give cards that can singlehandedly prevent opponents from being able to alpha strike you. Koskun Falls and other cards like it require a particular board state, which means that they're not good enough for this list.
Thanks for the suggestion though!
January 29, 2018 6:10 p.m.
If Propaganda and Ghostly Prison are on here, I would say Koskun Falls should too, 'particular board state' could be argued for quite a few like Sphere of Safety (reliant on other enchantments), Godsend (needs to be equip), and Spirit of Resistance . Koskun Falls is basically a forced "crew 0" ability.
There are too many other things you could add (don't have the time atm to check formating), for me to list, but there's at least like 6 to 8, maybe more, cards just from Filibusta' Foxes | ??????
January 29, 2018 6:31 p.m.
MagicalHacker says... #6
On second thought, I suppose requiring one creature isn't THAT big of a requirement. I could include cards like that.
That said, Spirit of Resistance has got to go.
Also, looked through that list :)
January 29, 2018 7:03 p.m.
MagicalHacker says... #8
AoOMike, it was in the deck in the past, but I removed it because I removed all cards that required a steep cost to continue to use (in this case, discarding a card). It's a great card, but not a good enough pillow fort card for just any old deck.
February 9, 2018 7:39 a.m.
Traveler247 says... #11
Nevermind, i saw your description. That card is still bomb though.
February 28, 2018 9:50 a.m.
SeniorEdificer says... #14
March 6, 2018 10 p.m.
MagicalHacker says... #15
Snips500, Iona does not have a special effect to stop opponents from attacking you.
Traveler247, in the right deck, yes!
YellaFeva, take a look at the first point under what the list doesn't include.
PvPArthur, Annex only hurts opponents for two life, which is a pretty insignificant deterrent in a commander game. Charisma seems great, but how is it better at warding off attacks than an equipment that gives deathtouch, like Gorgon's Head? Would you consider that a good pillow fort card? Lastly, causing opponents to mill cards is not a good deterrent either, especially with the fact that the majority of decks utilize the graveyard to some degree to recur cards, so milling is most often a good thing.
Note to self: add Phyrexian Obliterator.
April 10, 2018 12:09 a.m.
SeniorEdificer says... #16
@magicalhacker: Norn's Annex hurts, especially when you're being attacked by multiple creatures (2 damage per attacking creature), especially in token decks, which is what I come across a lot in my meta. I have people who like to make big swings in my meta, rather than doll out a little damage to everyone.
As for Charisma, it's a card that makes people thing twice, which is why I consider it a pillow-forting card.
As for milling, I play a lot of mill decks, and I tend to couple it with cards like Leyline of the Void, Sadistic Sacrament, Bojuka Bog, and Helm of Obedience.
Again, all of this is subjective depending on meta.
Just my 2 cents.
April 10, 2018 12:21 p.m.
Question, MagicalHacker.
I'm currently trying to make a Superfriends Deck with such ideas as this (And, shamefully, a cEDH Boros Deck in an attempt to Upgrade the Tier Max.), & I want to know; do most of the stuff on this have an updated errata that can be used for Superfriends (As in Attacking the Planeswalkers is opposed to their owner.)? I actually want some of these in my deck that don't involve damage reducing, but rather, effects that punish the opponent for attacking in various amounts of ways outside of Damage amount. That, & I wanted a good excuse to Run Rowan Kenrith. PX
July 28, 2018 6:25 a.m.
MagicalHacker says... #18
PvPArthur, Norn's Annex is not something I find powerful enough for me to run it personally, but it is definitely good enough for this list. Charisma and other equipments and auras that turn your blocking creatures into ways to remove attacking creatures are not bad, but because they require a creature with first strike/double strike/indestructible/protection/regenerate, they are not open-ended enough to be considered pillow fort cards even though they can create pillow fort engines. Same thing with mill when you have cards that exile all graveyards. Annex will continue to stay on the list. Thanks for the other suggestions!
BMHKain, actually, no. WotC rarely makes functional changes to cards, so if a card here doesn't mention attacking planeswalkers, it has no effect on that.
August 29, 2018 5:28 p.m.
griffstick says... #19
Does Boros Battleshaper qualify to be on this list?
August 29, 2018 5:54 p.m.
MagicalHacker says... #20
griffstick, I'm not sure. The main idea of the list are "Cards that protect you from combat damage", but I've been focusing more on protecting from big swarms of creatures.
That said, I think I might refine the list such that cards that only prevent damage from one creature being good too, like Darksteel Myr, Maze of Ith, Glissa, the Traitor, etc. In your opinion, are cards like that good enough to be worth recommending to fill the role of pillow fort?
August 29, 2018 7:41 p.m.
SeniorEdificer says... #21
Came across another card today: Elephant Grass. Does it make the cut?
August 29, 2018 10:19 p.m.
griffstick says... #22
Idk its your list man. Here's my thoughts. If by your definition pillow fort means stopping swam attacks then got a good list. Bit I personally think pillow fort means making it hard to attack with one creature or a bunch of creatures also preventing any source of damage or reducing damage or making it hard to do damage
August 29, 2018 11:02 p.m.
DrukenReaps says... #23
I dunno if you guys play much pillow fort but I've found Maze of Ith is every bit as important as Ghostly Prison and it really comes down to what you need to stop at the time. A good voltron deck will pummel you while paying for that prison but just might fold to the maze. A good swarm deck laughs at the maze but can fold to that prison. And then there are cards like Glacial Chasm which work wonders against both of those forms of attack.
I wouldn't just start throwing every deathtoucher on the list though. Ones like Archetype of Finality are great but Daggerback Basilisk clearly doesn't do enough. You could argue that daggerback stops or slows an attacker or two but it is also too easy to just trample over.
August 29, 2018 11:49 p.m.
CianHauser says... #24
If Windreader Sphinx is on, how come Edric is not?
lendrick says... #1
Koskun Falls... I mean, it's not the best, but a bad Propaganda still kinda good...
December 21, 2017 4:45 p.m.