id like to tag HiMastaHi to get his view point on this deck, comments, tips and honest opinion on how itll do

Why no Hero's Downfall ? its one of the best removals in standard right now. and its fits perfectly in this deck.

thanks for the idea, i have been contemplating adding it, the only reason i havent is they are quite difficult to find and i have, in my opinion, a sufficient amount of removal. but if i find some Hero's Downfall , ill definitely add some in

looks nice. did u playtest or meet an agro deck. what was the outcome?

aggro decks generally do well against me if they can do significant damage between turn 1-3, turn 4 is where i start hitting back so generally speaking it handles well enough with my T2 T3 like Fleecemane Lion and Brimaz, King of Oreskos but luckily my local meta play more control based decks, maybe 3 guys run full aggro's. i have by some miracle pulled wins from aggro decks, but more time will tell

Thanks for commenting on my list appreciate it. Honestly I would probably run the Herald of Torment in the main. It seems like your deck is pretty aggressive and it doesn't need a garruk at the top end since your curve ends essentially at 4. Also since Sylvan Caryatid isn't ramping you into anything bigger than 4 you could run Heir of the Wilds to make your curve even more aggressive, not to mention it shouldn't be hard to have ferocious with your creatures.

So my suggestion would be:

-1 garruk

-4 caryatid

-2 something else maybe Devouring Light both of them

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+4 herald

+3 heir

thanks,fhantom i will definitely be running some tests

i bet i could beat you with Anti-removal Heroes!

@Son-of-Mace it would be an interesting match up, to be honest my previous standard deck was a heroic build like yours and i found that it lacked the consistency at some points in either a lack of creatures, removal or enchantments. play test and tell me how it goes, i would like to see where i fall short against you or what i would need to improve on. for now the comments and a +1 would be great ill play test against your deck and see what happens. thanks for the comment

I do usualy get screwed on at least one thing during important games, i built it as a cheap deck that i know owuld do well enough to be fun but not break he bank, i am 15 and not the most competitive player so i just want to be able to win a few packs on FNM not top 8 the pro tour, abzan midrange doesnt see much play at my local shop, but i do see a lot of jund and temur control/beatdown, and enough sultai midrange to make you kill yourself, SO MANY SAGU MAULER AND MASTER OF THE FEAST, in a four round night my heroes will usualy give me a solid 3-1, but thanks for the imput

I just playtested the following list. It seemed to be more consistent and had the a more consistent form of flying. Bumping the Wingmate Roc might be a more reliable choice instead of depending on Herald of Torment . The ramp seems fine but you might want to consider adding some draw. I added in. Eidolon of blossoms to help make sure I'm not topdecking mid game. World eater was ok in the deck, But with wingmate roc and fleecemane in there, you didn't want to many other cards disrupting your curve. He other Ajani seemed a better fit too. Also mainboard Hero's Downfall and sideboard utter end, against Red decks with Stormbreath Dragon

Again this is just what I chose to playtested with and it faired pretty well against my deck. You can pick and choose anything you see beneficial for your deck though.

Creatures
1x Anafenza, the Foremost
1x Athreos, God of Passage
4x Fleecemane Lion
4x Herald of Torment
4x Siege Rhino
4x Eidolon of Blossoms
4x Sylvan Caryatid
3x Wingmate Roc

Planeswalker
2x Ajani, Mentor of Heroes
1x Garruk, Apex Predator

Spells
2x Whip of Erebos
3x Abzan Charm
2x Bile Blight
3x Hero's Downfall

Lands
3x Blossoming Sands
4x Forest
2x Jungle Hollow
3x Plains
4x Sandsteppe Citadel
2x Scoured Barrens
3x Swamp

Sideboard
3x Despise
2x Utter End
2x Glare of Heresy
3x Erase
1x Erebos, God of the Dead
2x Kin-Tree Invocation
2x Reprisal

On the above post. The Herald was supposed to be Courser of Kruphix my bad, must have forgot to change it.

i wasnt expecting this much detail, thanks for the comment! i completely agree with siding out Utter End for Hero's Downfall my only issue is finding the actual cards, they are very very hard to come by for some reason. im still not too sure of Eidolon of Blossoms as that card draw will only fire on itself due to there being no enchantments otherwise. i have recently added Wingmate Roc in to see how it performs, and will most likely add another one in eventually. i am still conflicted about Herald of Torment it equals Mantis Rider which at this point in time is my greatest weakness. i will however playtest your list and see what i find beneficial. thanks again

Nice build, but I would put in at least 2 more lands.

Whip, courser, and he aethros are all enchantments.

@ Pesmerga1984 i was originally running 2x Caves of Koilos but after i added the 4x Sylvan Caryatid i felt that 24 land was too much. i agree in a deck running multiple cards in the 6 drop range and up, i would need that 2 more, however i curve out at 4, running under 5 cards above the 4 mana threshold. i have play tested and it seems to be working fine thus far. thanks for the comment though. @tristanwonpierce im really trying not to fall into the "typical abzan deck" range by running coursers and eidelon of blossoms, for now the brimaz is decent enough as a 3 drop defender and ajani and abzan charm get me sufficient card draw. i wouldnt know what to take out to put those cards in. thanks for the comments though guys. keep em coming! please +1 if you havent already. would like to see how far up the chain this deck can go

Sorry so long to get back to you. Thanks you again for the suggestions, going to try the updated version at FNM tomorrow. I'm not a huge fan of the 1 Herald of Torment, find he's more a detriment to you, would rather maybe a Rakshasa Deathdealer, or for flying, another Wingmate Roc. As for the tapped lands that give +1 life, not a fan, unless they SCRY. Scry seems SO much more important in the meta. Rest of this build is really solid.

thanks for the comment. my only reason behind Herald of Torment is the bestow, i mean a bestowed siege rhino is crazy! i usually side him out against aggro decks anyway due to the life loss mechanism, so i see your point. ill playtest with another roc in and see how that does. as for the lands, those are all i have right now, im looking to get a set of scry lands and Llanowar Wastes and other pain lands to replace them with just so my land base is a bit faster.more along the linds of your mana construction, but for now, this is the deck that i have and that im playing so when i get new stuff, ill make updates and what not.

Atheros whip rhino combo is legit and scary as hell. Awesome deck.

im liking the deck, it earns a +1 from me for sure, but I think a few things could be done IMO. I think that dropping the Ajani Steadfast in favor of Sorin, Solemn Visitor would help tremendously in this deck- lifelink, flying tokens and an ult that forces opponents to sac creatures is crazy good right now. Maybe even add 2 and drop the Garruk, Apex Predator for it. I really wish that you could find room for Despise in this deck as well, maybe instead of Silence the Believers and move it to sb- you wouldnt need expensive removal if you take it before they can cast it, plus if you have anafenza out they cant whip it back into play, and getting to see the rest of their hand is just icing on the cake.Another Wingmate Roc would be great too in this build- maybe sub it in for another Fleecemane Lion? And lastly, I would like to see scrylands in place of the lifelands but thats nitpicking on my part- it would help board setup quite a bit, thats all.

@koschei49 thanks so much for the comment. i really like my Ajani Steadfast but you arent the first person to tell me so im going to play test with one at first and make my mind whether or not it has a place in this deck. i didnt think of Despise in that way so ill run it in place of Silence the Believers and play test it, yes i definitely want to add better lands and another wingmate, but this is what i have at the moment, im looking to get Llanowar Wastes and Caves of Koilos with Windswept Heath and a Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth to replace the lifelands which should speed the deck up considerably, and seeing as i have a lot of lifelink triggers, the pain shouldnt be too severe. ill be taking your suggestions into consideration, thanks a lot!

I would say you need drown in sorrow, either x3 or x4 in the sideboard. But it depends on your meta. Otherwise looks good!

I'd recommend taking Rakshasa, Deathdealer over Reaper of the wilds, although it isn't the right amount of mana, 2 and 3 drops dominate standard. plus I figure they have practically the same effects. except the Rakshasa is a returning threat until the game ends.

thanks osich ill playtest and see what works best, i personally took reaper of rakshasa due to the scry triggers as well as the deathtouch hexproof ability over the pump. but i havent played rakshasa in this deck so it would be interesting to see.

hi! having looked to all the comments, I reckon there are amazing invaluable comments here (I'll take some to my AGGRzan if I can! :$)to your deck: I reckon you really need to run the 4x Coursers.. I mean, you would have playtested it much more than I can tell but with 22 lands (after fetch) and curve at 4 CMC you may slow down a bit. like you said, there may be little aggro where you are and the deck does well - so that should get you winning, which is good for where you are.My 2cent suggestion :) +2 Hero's Downfall +2 Courser +1 Wingmate (this is so much stronger than Herald at 5 cost!!) +2 Sorin -1 Garruk (can be SB if you must, and if you play against Abzan) -1 Ajani Steadfast -1 Herald -2 Reapers -2 Utter (move to SB, replace with Dark Betrayal ->> unless black really is heavily played where you are :))

(2x Drown in Sorrow in SB would help, instead of Silence the Believers >> End Hostilities does practically the same, and if issues with Indestructible bring in the Utter End)

PS: all of this is very situational! you did win the FNM, so Congrats for that!! it is always about meta, and it seems you did find the right mix where you are ;)) +1 from me!! :)