Mikaeus, Extreme Sub $20 Budget EDH
Commander / EDH
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EnderSlayer13: It's an awesome card, but too slow, and for this deck $2.6 is $2.5 too much!
Still a card I'm a fan of though.
Also want to thank everyone for getting me to 700 votes! You're awesome!
We're now the 8th highest rated deck on tappedout (and 4 votes behind the 7th)!100 more votes and we pass the only deck that is an actual functional deck and not some sort of magic joke.
Help me get an actual magic deck on the top of tappedout.
April 15, 2015 8:59 p.m.
DragonMaster53 says... #5
This is awesome. +1 to you and your family.
One question, have you considered Dictate of Erebos? I'm not sure on the price but that can helo you in a pinch.
April 18, 2015 3:33 a.m.
DragonMaster53: It was in the deck for a long time but as some cards increased in price I had to cut a few.
April 18, 2015 3:52 a.m.
An easy way to calculate the low/med/high price is to copy the deck to http://www.mtgvault.com/
That site displays all three (my friends and I do this, but using a $30 low-end budget)
April 18, 2015 11:03 a.m.
DirtyDan490 says... #8
I really love this deck! I hope you don't mind but I built mine based off of this deck! It is a non-budget build. +1 upvote from me
April 18, 2015 4:48 p.m.
got this for mtgo, and it's even cheaper than paper, about $9 overall, and a good time
April 19, 2015 12:17 a.m.
DirtyDan490: Of course not, always nice to see more people building this deck!
pryoplasm: MTGO has a tendency to be cheaper than paper magic. Especially when you don't need to pay any shipping. Nice to hear!
mortilus: Well, that sure beats adding it up manually... I think I'll need to try that. (Although I'm kind of afraid to, since when I added the lows manually I ended up with $2 more to spend)
April 19, 2015 8:47 a.m.
On MTGVault, it matters which version of the card you choose, since different versions of the cards have different costs. For example, Counterspell
- 7th Ed, $.70: http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/7th-edition/counterspell
- Duel Decks, $4.64: http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/duel-decks-anthology/counterspell
April 19, 2015 12:46 p.m.
hoboartrus says... #12
This deck is absolutely fun to play! I build it with everything I had, spent a reasonable amount to get some of the stuff I didn't have, and although the lists aren't perfectly identical, it works like a charm. It feels good to pull out this deck to deal with those that are consistently winning via shenanigans. Thanks, I'll continue to improve it as I get the pieces, great budget deck. The non budget version looks fantastic too, I'm jealous of a few of those cards ;)
April 20, 2015 2:30 p.m.
hoboartrus: Awesome to hear from people who enjoy the deck! Make sure to rub it in when you beat them with something so cheap...
April 20, 2015 6:46 p.m.
Have had this build for 2-3 months now. Love It!
Trying to foil the really inexpensive stuff, mostly for grins. SCG has 20 foil Swamps for $12. Tcgplayer has 40 or so non-swamp cards, foiled, for around $35.
April 21, 2015 3:42 p.m.
Just some thoughts, all under 2.50:Vengeful DeadSanguine BondMagus of the CoffersLiving DeathVictimizeRun all in my Sidisi deck, which is really expensive :P
April 21, 2015 10:24 p.m.
EnvokeV2: Really good suggestions, I used to run Victimize but took it out since it had a bit too many hoops to jump through.
Unfortunately these are still too expensive. We're talking $0.1 range to meet the criteria here!
Dr4c0: I've always been kind of tempted to foil the Mikaeus deck just for kicks, but then again I'd kind of defeat the point of having the deck be as cheap as possible... But still, imagine the pimpness!
April 21, 2015 11:09 p.m.
Sleazebag I did imagine it, then realized it merely doubles the price of the deck. I only picked up foils that were under $2 with the winnings of a $5 scratch ticket. All of the Pimpness. I'mma need sunglasses to play this deck!
April 22, 2015 9:52 a.m.
I think that there is a card that is DEFINITELY worth including in a mikaeus deck, especially one that's on a budget: Retribution of the Ancients. Not only does it take off all +1/+1 counters from creatures we control, but it even acts as removal for indestructible creatures!
April 23, 2015 12:10 a.m.
Eh, I made the deck intended for a free-for-all, usual commander game. Little did I know my LGS ran 1v1 and 1v1 only, and only the 1v1 banlist. Looks like I'm keeping that Necropotence in a binder after all.. eh.
Anyway, I reconstructed the deck a bit and have been using it for 1v1. Winning is incredible and Flesh-Eater Imp + Infernal Darkness is usually a win without even needing Mikaeus, but it's not like I don't ever lose either. It's about 50/50? Though the first FNM I ran it 1v1, I ended up 0/7, which is pretty embarrassing, especially since I upgraded it as much as I could.
I added hand disruption, it's an amazing way of removing threats before your opponent has a chance to play them; therefore making the whole "black only has creature removal" argument pointless. Though, while Blood Artist goes incredibly well with the deck, I've learned it's an incredible counter against the whole combo, which is a setback, at least.
Though, the deck is still somewhat slow. Especially when my opponent is running Braids as a general, who's, for some reason, legal in 1v1.
In any case, here's the decklist;http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mikaeus-100-mono-black-deck/ It'd be super nice if anyone could give a few suggestions as to what I should run in the deck. Do remember it's 1v1, though. I'd put Bitterblossom, but I don't really have the cash for it r/n.
May 1, 2015 3:04 p.m.
Ibuki: The problem here is that Mikaeus is really bad at Duel Commander. 1v1 commander is COMPLETELY different from multiplayer.
Imagine yourself building a legacy deck, that is how 1v1 is. You want most of your cards to be at 2-3 mana, with your bombs and win-conditions the only ones higher than that. You also want a ton of removal and disruption like Go for the Throat, Thoughtseize, Inquisition of Kozilek etc, since you don't lose card advantage with 1 for 1 removal like in multiplayer.
As much as it pains me to say it, but if you want a relatively budget 1v1 deck I'd try something other than Mikaeus. You are better off with a commander that costs 3-4 mana. Talrand for example could be a great budget 1v1 commander.
May 1, 2015 4:32 p.m.
The problem is in the fact that I'd already went and made this deck, and while I could reliably sell most of it for about 100$ added up, I'm really digging this deck's whole strategy. Though, if that was my only issue, I'd sell it and build something else right away. I'll be moving soon though, and I'm pretty sure at least someone's gonna play regular EDH in the UK, especially in London.
I'm running some 1 for 1's, like Despise and Duress. I had Thoughtseize, but someone stole it, it's real bad luck. And I have the reverse Inquisition of Kozilek (discards a cmc of 4 or more), though I'm not sure if it's any good.
Also, when playing 2HG (with 1v1 rules), this deck is absolutely brutal. With a good support to take care of the things mono-black can't, I usually combo out by turn 4. One of the best ways to do this is with Altar of Dementia, since nobody plays Eldrazi at my LGS. Well, not that I've seen.
Braids, Cabal Minionis a really good deck, and I have a lot of the engine needed to run her, but the issue is that I'm unskilled with piloting her.
I should note that decks, both 1v1 and (sometimes) multiplayer that run commanders for 6 or more mana will easily get played out by this one. Prossh, for example, has several combos, but usually doesn't go off on the turn someone drops it. Mikaeus most usually does.
May 1, 2015 7:07 p.m.
Ibuki: Yeah, the times I have played 2HG with Mikaeus, the games pretty much ended turn 4-5 every time. Just have your teammate sit with countermana up while you try to combo off.
Sorry for not being of any help when it comes to 1v1! Other than lowering your curve and adding more 1 for 1 earlygame cards (More removal like Go for the Throat and Doom Blade, Smother, Damnation etc, also discard like Hymn to Tourach and Cabal Therapy. Edict effects like Diabolic Edict and Chainer's Edict. Remove some more expensive cards for them I guess.
Puppeteer Clique is also a great combo with Mikaeus lategame, although thats more multiplayer oriented than 1v1.
Hopefully you'll find a playgroup that plays multiplayer!
May 1, 2015 7:28 p.m.
actually I tried Puppeteer Clique online, and had issues with undying going back to the owners side with a +1/+1 counter....it was a bad idea
May 2, 2015 9:21 a.m.
pryoplasm: Puppeteer exiles the creature you reanimate eot, so it doesn't come back with undying under their control.
If they try to kill the creature you reanimated in order to get it back, you can sacrifice the clique while the undying trigger is ON THE STACK and grab it back! Mikaeus + Puppeteer + Sac outlet lets you infinitely reanimate ALL your opponents creatures at instant speed.
May 2, 2015 6:08 p.m.
Valentine35 says... #25
I'm confused, how do some of those cards in the "sac fodder" list make infinite combos? I understand a few of them like Tatterkite, Spincrusher, and Triskelion, but i don't get how the others work? I thought just because they have -1 counters on them doesn't mean that the +1 counter isn't on them anymore, i thought it still had both counters on it technically even though they cancel each other out aren't they both still on it? So that way they can infinitely come back with Mikaeus because they wont have undying for a second time around. I'm just curious, maybe I've been playing the counters wrong. Please explain. sorry if this is a dumb comment, i was just curious.
Sleazebag says... #1
Megalomania: Definitely! Unfortunately it's $1 which is far too expensive for this deck. I run it in my Mikaeus, Extreme Not So Budget EDH.
April 8, 2015 10:48 p.m.