Milling Gone Rogue (Precon Upgrade Guide)[PRIMER]
Commander / EDH
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unpsophable says... #2
If you fix the update tabs and substitutions will be the perfect guide.. We, the sneak attack players, thank you
January 18, 2021 4:23 p.m.
Thank you for your work with this fun theme! Especially I like your choice of low CMC spot removals and dirt cheap unblockable pawns doing heavy lifting.
Below, some that may be useful:
Mesmeric Orb - can't say enough how much value/fun that one is in an actual game ;)
Ashiok, Dream Render is always nice, especially if you need to get rid of all opponents graveyards
S.
January 19, 2021 5:13 p.m.
VorelNailo says... #4
nomjas123 - so glad you like the deck!
Mesmeric Orb is something I've never tried before. I wish it didn't mill me, but that's not a huge issue (I just wish I could play Lurrus). How has your experience with it been? How much does it actually mill?
Ashiok, Dream Render is a very powerful planeswalker, and the mill is formidable (a 20 card installment plan for 3 mana), but I'm not a fan of the required exile. I'm trying to shift the deck more towards reanimation, and exiling all those Sphinx of the Second Suns doesn't help.
January 19, 2021 5:58 p.m.
VorelNailo Thanks for reaching out!
Mesmeric Orb Mills a lot. Depends on how long it stays on the table, but usually 5-10 per turn triggered at untap, resolved at upkeep. One-time 2 generic mana investment. One of my favorites. Court of Cunning is stronger, as long as you can costitently keep monarch.
Ashiok, Dream Render - maybe less usefull if you don't have too much reanimation in your playgroup. I have a buddy playing Meren and I love going all Ashiok on him. Anyhow, anti-tutor is pretty powerful all around (kills ramp too).
My meta used to be full of boardwipes, so I put together Mulldrotha deck. I brewed with it a little bit and turns out I really liked how milling went, so I decided for that strategy.
If you wanna shift towards reanimation, then I would happily recommend: Havengul Lich - can reanimate your or opponents graves
Sewer Nemesis - can get quite big really fast
Consuming Aberration - as above. If you play a lot of small spells, which you seem to do, it provides good milling too.
Altar of Dementia - Good sac outlet for mill decks. Works amazing with the two above.
Living Death - crazy gamechanger with self-mill and ashiok
Use whatever you like :)
January 19, 2021 6:38 p.m.
VorelNailo says... #7
Balustrade Spy at 4 mana sits at a very crowded part of our curve, where most of our card draw sits. I don't want to have to delay getting our card draw engine running for a turn; card advantage is how we keep up with more powerful commanders/decks.
Undercity Informer is interesting, but a 3cmc 2/3 with no evasion doesn't cut it, and we don't want to sacrifice any of our more evasive rogues or lords. The mill is nice, but with not sacrificing any of our other creatures it's just a worse Mind Grind , which didn't make the cut.
Thanks for your interest in the deck! Suggestions are always appreciated.
VorelNailo says... #1
unpsophable. First of all, thanks a ton for your feedback. Also, you're the 50th upvote! I'm so glad to hear that it's inspired you. This deck has become my pet project, and I'm really happy with the way it's turned out. I have a ton of fun playing it, and a surprisingly good winrate. I apologize for switching out cards after you placed your order - I had just placed an order myself for the higher end reanimation pieces, as I enjoy the games I have with them. Necropolis Regent and Fleet Swallower were cut just for speed - 6+ mana, and then waiting to untap with them is a huge investment, and I've found it's more beneficial to play out a Coastal Piracy and some small evasive rogues - it makes your board more resilient to single-target removal, which is extremely prevalent at least in my meta. If your meta is slower/less interactive, they are powerful cards that no one can fault you for playing.
You do raise an important point: that this primer, which starts out as a precon upgrade guide, has gradually evolved into more of a standalone deck. I did start by buying the precon at my LGS, and have been upgrading it ever since. The final decklist is (in my opinion, and with my budget constraints) the most optimized the deck can be with this strategy, as tested in over a hundred games in the last 6 months. I agree, AEtherize can definitely put in some good work, especially against go-wide token decks, but with the pandemic my playgroup has shrunk, and there's not much use for it - I'm generally the only one attacking, unless the game is about to be over. I will work on posting updates whenever I switch out any cards, and attempt to explain my thought processes as I do so.
Once again, thank you so much for your support and recommendations. Have fun!
January 18, 2021 11:52 a.m.