gotta have more removal so that you can make it to midrange

mavoricke,
Really? 10 cards seemed decent for a first take ... though Kaladesh Standard is looking to be super-Aggro so you're probably right, especially early on ...

How many cards would you recommend?

well Collective Defiance is pushing it to call it removal like you dont want to waste that on just a creature. Incendiary Flow is good. I'd say play 4 Galvanic Bombardment a use it only gets bigger.

keep the defiance but put bombardment on in place of something

mavoricke,
I know what you mean on Collective Defiance, but it's flat-out amazing as 4 to a Creature and 3 to the face for .

Wondering now if the deck might need some sort of boardwipe more than more spot-removal ... it's going to be so interesting seeing how the meta shakes out!

Thanks for your thoughts!

no problem

Looks good, I'm not quite sure what to suggest to make this better than it is other than making it 60 cards. I suppose take out a Fleetwheel Cruiser for sure, then possibly a Harnessed Lightning and move that to the sideboard by cutting out a Blossoming Defense?

Then perhaps take out a Architect of the Untamed as if I were you once I had something like a Mirrorwing Dragon out I would want to be using more of my energy towards Harnessed Lightning to simply kill their creatures to get damage in. Plus you have enough means to buff your creatures I think to make up for not a third of Architect of the Untamed for its tokens.

Then you could perhaps cut back on an Evolving Wilds if a third architect is gone instead for another mountain.

Now the last card, this one is more difficult to decide upon, but try maybe an Incendiary Flow? It could be put in the sideboard if you want. I would take out perhaps a Vines of the Recluse if you really want to keep this other Incendiary Flow available.

As for the maybe board I wouldn't bother with Armorcraft Judge. I would only consider them if you were using cards like Verdurous Gearhulk, Cultivator of Blades and Nissa, Voice of Zendikar.

Arlinn Kord  ^Flip is a possibility, but only if you take out a Fleetwheel Cruiser as you have enough means for haste in the deck already I think.

Chandra, Torch of Defiance hold off on, see if it's price lowers as its quite high right now.. Generally upon release cards that might see lots of use are estimated to be worth more but then drop if not used as widely as thought.

Look at my Arlinn Kord  ^Flip prerelease promo for example. It was worth $90 Cad ($68 US) around the time I initially got it and then it dropped to $35 Cad (25-26 US) roughly now.

I will give the rest of your maybeboard a look again later. But this looks good currently!

Here's another energy deck I had, it uses Armorcraft Judge as well as Nissa, Voice of Zendikar.

Selesnya Energy Fabrication

Delta-117,
Thanks for all your thoughts! I'm going to hold off deciding until after the set is fully spoiled, but I really appreciate your perspective.

One thing though: I'm definitely holding off on Chandra, Torch of Defiance for a while. I expect there will be a drop after folks open the set, but before Pro Tour Kaladesh. And then depending on how many see play on the Tour, I'm guessing it'll either drop more or (more likely) spike up again.

Thanks again!

"Whenever a player casts an instant or sorcery spell that targets only Mirrorwing Dragon, that player copies that spell for each other creature he or she controls that the spell could target. Each copy targets a different one of those creatures." that is the ability text for Mirrorwing Dragon. "Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell that targets only Zada, Hedron Grinder, copy that spell for each other creature you control that the spell could target. Each copy targets a different one of those creatures." is the ability text for Zada, Hedron Grinder. There are two majorly big differences between these two cards. First, the basics: mana cost; Zada is a four drop with only one mana specific, Mirrorwing is a five drop two mana specific. The second point is that with Mirrorwing's ability is triggered by any player's spells, which could work in their favor over yours, while Zada limits the spells to your own casting ability.

if you had both mirroring dragon and zada on field and targeted only one. it would then cast for each other creature targeting only them. which would mean that you could for example target one with a larger than life it would copy and target only everyou other creature for each cast and you would have an infinite standard combo to pump until you win right?

gleeson.token,
Maybe you didn't see this in the Strategy and Card Choices section:

GREAT CARDS I'M NOT RUNNING AND WHY: Zada, Hedron Grinder: She's just too fragile.

Thanks though.

mavoricke,
No, there is no's crazy interaction if both Zada, Hedron Grinder and Mirrorwing Dragon are on the battlefield at the same time. The key piece is "Whenever you cast [a spell] that targets only ~ ... copy that spell for each other creature ...". For example, if you cast an Instant or Sorcery that targets only Zada, you copy the spell, targeting Mirrorwing. But since the second spell is copied rather than cast, Mirrorwing's ability won't trigger.

Gotta have some of those Kozilek's Returns in there. It doesn't wipe your stuff if you cast it postcombat, and you can surprise an opponent on their turn. Probably sideboard material though.

123katty,
That's a really good point ... I'm embarrassed I didn't realize that! Thanks much!

Is Architect of the Untamed better than Tireless Tracker? Ive been playing Bant Company since OGW, and am not impressed but the architect unless you need trackers 5-8. Also, I feel like this deck is leaning too heavily on combat tricks and the interaction of Mirrorwing Dragon to be that efficient. It might be better to just include better threats, like Sylvan Advocate, or the new energy ramp card, Servant of the Conduit. Also, Bristling Hydra could be an incredible threat if you wanted to keep the energy theme. I also agree with the above sentiments of including more removal, but itll depend on if you play more larger threats or smaller creatures as to whether you play mainboard board wipes or not. Otherwise, it seems like an awesome start and a great discussion piece.

Hu_Gibbet011,
I'm not sure about Architect of the Untamed vs. Tireless Tracker ... I think the Architect is better for this deck, but it's going to come down to whether how much an extra Energy counter every now and then + a long-shot chance at a Flash 6/6 is really worth. I'll keep Tracker in mind for sure. Especially if I end up with just a little more Artifact synergy, then Tracker would be better for sure.

And I know exactly what you mean on Mirrorwing Dragon. I've been trying to solve Zada, Hedron Grinder and now Mirrorwing for quite some time. Not sure if this is it yet, but I figure I have to try :-)

I like Sylvan Advocate for sure. I hadn't really looked at Servant of the Conduit ... not sure the deck needs mana dorks, but I'll take a hard look.

I'm not a huge fan of Bristling Hydra actually. The Hexproof is nice for sure, but there are just so many other 4-drops I'd rather run.

Thanks much!

I love how you can target mirrorwing dragon with Harnessed Lightning, let it copy to all of your creatures, get all of that energy then don't spend any so all of your creatures survive plus you get probably 12 or more energy from it.

I understand your comments re Zada, Hedron Grinder, but have been burnt by opponents using the "Whenever a PLAYER casts.." on Mirrorwing Dragon vs relative safety of Zada's "Whenever YOU cast...". Am looking to build something like this, but also including Cryptolith Rite and splashing a Grim Flayer or 2. IDK - still mashing it all together for once Kaledesh is in play... Draw well!

majtnkr,
Yeah, that can happen with Mirrorwing for sure, and I'm quick to side it out against an opponent who plays combat tricks and knows the card (though in Kaladesh Standard, it may make more sense to side in Blossoming Defense).

Seriously, I played Zada for most of SOI Standard, and I really want to love the card. But even then she was really too fragile for a four-drop ... and now there's even more Removal that can kill */3s, so she's even worse. I'd run Eldritch Evolution from a 3-drop into Mirrorwing way before I'd run Zada.

Yeah it might be nice to get some Black in here; please let me know what you end up doing! By the way, Aether Hub and Deathcap Cultivator are some other good options if you're looking to splash.

Thanks and hope you draw well too!