Modern-ish 5CB week 1

Modern*

knobbodi

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Score Table

X	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	total	player
1	X	3	6	6	6	6	1	6	33	azaz
2	3	X	2	6	2	3	6	6	24	cruel
3	0	2	X	0	6	0	0	6	14	arehara
4	0	0	6	X	6	6	6	2	26	villhelm
5	0	2	0	0	X	0	0	0	2	formalwhale
6	0	3	6	0	6	X	6	0	20	molly
7	4	0	6	0	6	0	X	2	18	meowbear
8	0	0	0	2	6	6	2	X	16	manathehour

1) azaz - hatoken! Chancellor of the Forge / Chancellor of the Forge / Chancellor of the Forge / Leyline of the Meek / Leyline of the Meek

figured everybody would be trying to out think one another so instead i went the other direction and just did no thoughts head empty board full

matches Show

vs cruel Show

on the play, you get run over by 3/3s.

on the draw, it goes like this:

1: caverns, elixir

1: attack (11 life)

2: temple, scourge

2: attack, block with scourge (scourge trades with token, 5 life)

3: warping wail for a 3/3 scion

3: attack, block with scion (2 life)

4: activate elixir during upkeep (7 life), draw elixir

and then from here i can't get through, and die to infinite recursion

3-3

vs arehara Show

goes like this on the draw:

1: detention vortex a token

1: attack (14 life)

2: doomed traveler

2: attack (chump block, 11 life)

3: suspend restore balance (6 counters)

3: attack (trade with spirit token, 8 life)

4: (5 time counters)

4: attack (5 life)

5: (4 time counters)

5: attack (2 life)

and on my play it's less close

6-0

vs villhelm Show

3 3/3s beats 2 2/2s

6-0

vs formalwhale Show

i kill you before you can cast a lock piece

6-0

vs mollytov Show

crashing footfalls is too slow, and i dodge your land hate by not playing any lands

6-0

vs meowbear Show

on the play:

1: attack (11 life)

1: seachrome coast, void snare leyline

2: attack (5 life)

2: blinkmoth, thalia

3: attack (block with thalia, first strike token, 1 life)

and from here if i attack again you chump block with blinkmoth and kill a second token, leaving me with one 2/2 unable to attack into thalia. if i don't attack, if you attack with blinkmoth i get through, so you don't attack either. so we draw.

on the draw, i can't get you to low enough to force the stalemate, so your thalia holds back my 3 2/2s and i die to blinkmoth beats.

1-4

vs manathehour Show

because my second attack leaves you at exactly 2 life, you can only get me to 8 poison even on the play due to being unable to free cast your mutagenic growths. and pendelhaven + mutagenic to kill tokens isn't fast enough either.

6-0

2) cruelshy - immortal scourge Eternal Scourge / Elixir of Immortality / Warping Wail / Cavern of Souls / Eldrazi Temple

this deck is extremely cool and powerful (warping wail in particular worked out incredibly for you) but holy shit it has SO many lines that i hated figuring out. your only real weakness was that you're significantly more resilient than you are disruptive

matches Show

vs azaz Show

as my notes for our match, on the play you get saved by my leylines making your scion buff, on the draw i'm too fast

3-3

vs arehara Show

his line is to try to balance you, with mana tithe to stop warping wail from stopping restore balance, and detention vortex on elixir to slow you down enough for it to work.

there's a lot of lines here, this is probably the most complicated match out of the whole set.

on the play:

1: cavern, elixir

1: plains, suspend restore balance (6 time counters)

2: temple, warping wail for a token

2: 5 time counters, detention vortex elixir

3: sac scion, destroy detention vortex

3: 4 time counters

4: elixir during upkeep, draw elixir

4: 3 time counters

5: draw warping wail. warping wail would get countered by mana tithe and wouldn't be back in time for balance, and elixir would get killed by balance, so you cast scourge

5: 2 time counters

6: attack with scourge (20-17)

6: 1 time counter

and from here there's nothing you can do to stop balance from resolving. and since you don't ever have 3 mana a scion, holding onto elixir doesn't help.

if you try to sandbag your second land + elixir to shuffle after balance resolves, he waits until there's 1 time counter left then casts doomed traveler, then he uses detention vortex to stop your elixir plan after balance resolves. if instead you cast scourge or warping wail for a token the turn before restore balance, after balance he vortexes it.

so instead you play as above, casting warping wail on turn 6 to make him counter it and then elixir on turn 7 so that you have 0 cards when it resolves. if he casts doomed traveler you get to outrace it with scourge, so instead he discards it to balance and you draw.

on the draw, things work out the same way

2-2

vs villhelm Show

if meddling mage names scourge, even on the draw you have time to make a scion with warping wail, then you can elixir and use the extra mana to pay the thalia tax to warping wail her, then win via infinite eldrazi scions

if mage names warping wail, you easily win by racing or trading and elixiring. so he has to name elixir. but you get 1 use out of it still due to it costing 1.

in order to prevent thalia from dying, on the draw it goes like this then:

1: cavern

1: cavern, elixir

2: thalia

2: temple, scourge

3: meddling mage on elixir

3: attack with scourge (20-17)

4: attack with both (16-17)

4: attack scourge (16-14)

5: attack humans (12-14)

5: attack scourge (12-11)

6: attack humans (8-11)

6: attack scourge (8-8)

7: attack humans (4-8)

7: attack scourge (4-5), activate elixir (9-5)

8: attack humans (5-5)

8: attack scourge (5-2)

so you win the race via the extra 5 life from activating elixir once. if he instead trades, even if he waits until after you've cracked elixir, you get him with a scion. and you have just enough life that splitting up the 2 guys doesn't help either

6-0

vs formalwhale Show

on the play:

1: elixir

1: hallowed fountain

2: temple, scourge

2: calciform pools, 1 storage counter

3: attack scourge (20-17), warping wail for a token

3: 2 storage counters

4: elixir during upkeep (25-17), draw elixir, attack with scourge + scion (25-13)

4: 3 storage counters

5: draw warping wail, make a second scion, attack with scourge + scion (25-9)

5: 4 storage counters

6: elixir, attack with scourge + 2 scions (25-4)

6: remove 2 storage counters (down to 2) for phyrexian unlife

7: elixir during upkeep (30-4), draw elixir, attack with scourge + 2 scions (30-negative 1)

7: remove the last 2 storage counters for solemnity

and then formalwhale locks you out, but solemnity stops reactor too so you draw. on the draw, the same happens.

2-2

vs mollytov Show

this is another tricky one.

on the play Show

if she turns off temple:

1: cavern, elixir

1: alpine moon naming temple, suspend crashing rhinos 1 (4 time counters)

2: warping wail for a scion

2: 3 time counters, suspend second crashing rhinos (4 time counters)

3: sac scion for mana in order to scourge

3: 2,3 time counters

4: elixir during upkeep (25-20), draw elixir, attack with scourge (25-17)

4: 1,2 time counters

5: draw warping wail, attack (25-14)

5: cast crashing rhinos, countered by warping wail, 1 time counter

6: cast elixir, attack (25-11)

6: cast second crashing rhinos

7: elixir during upkeep (30-11), draw elixir

7: attack with rhinos (22-11)

8: draw warping wail, cast it for a scion

8: attack with rhinos, block with scourge+scion to trade with 1 (18-11)

9: elixir

9: attack (14-11)

10: elixir during upkeep (19-11), draw scourge

10: attack (15-11)

11: draw elixir, cast elixir

11: attack (11-11)

12: draw warping wail, make a scion

12: attack (7-11)

13: elixir during upkeep (12-11), draw elixir

13: attack (8-11)

14: draw warping wail, warping wail for a second scion

14: attack (4-11)

15: sac one scion to cast scourge

and from here you win by being able to trade with the last rhino and burying her in scions. so instead she double suspends instead of mooning on 1:

1: cavern, elixir

1: suspend both crashes (4 time counters)

2: temple, scourge

2: 3 time counters, alpine moon on temple

3: attack with scourge, warping wail for a token (20-17)

3: 2 time counters

4: elixir during upkeep (25-17), draw elixir, attack with scourge + scion (25-13)

4: 1 time counter

5: draw warping wail, attack (25-9)

5: cast both crashes, one countered by warping wail

6: elixir

and from here you either outrace her, or if she doesn't attack you slowly build up a scion army.

on the draw Show

1: suspend both crashes (4 time counters)

1: cavern, elixir

2: 3 time counters, alpine moon naming temple

2: warping wail for a scion

3: 2 time counters

3: elixir during upkeep (25-20), draw elixir

4: 1 time counter

4: draw warping wail, attack with scion (25-19)

5: cast both crashes, 1 countered by warping wail

5: sac scion for scourge

6: attack with rhinos (17-19)

6: elixir

7: attack (9-19)

7: elixir during upkeep (14-19), draw elixir

8: attack (6-19)

8: draw warping wail, make a scion

9: attack, scourge+scion trade with 1 rhino (2-19)

and from here you die to the remaining rhino

3-3

vs meowbear Show

cavern stops mana tithe, and turn 1 elixir on the play means you win the race pretty easily.

on the draw, you don't walk elixir into turn 1 mana tithe, and if she keeps up mana to counter your 2-mana elixir then thalia gets outraced by scourge. if she doesn't keep mana up, you get to elixir every other turn and win the race that way. and if she trades with scourge, you just elixir it right back.

and using void snare to bounce scourge isn't nearly enough tempo to make up for it:

1: seachrome coast

1: cavern

2: thalia

2: scourge

3: void snare scourge, attack (18-20)

3: elixir

4: attack with thalia and blinkmoth nexus (15-20)

4: cast scourge from exile

5: attack with blinkmoth (14-20)

5: elixir during upkeep (19-20), draw elixir, attack with scourge (19-17)

6: attack with both (16-17)

and you win the race here via every other turn elixir

6-0

vs manathehour Show

on the play you cast scourge on turn 2. if he rancors, you block and he needs to double mutatagenic growth to not trade, and then elf dies to warping wail. so instead he relies on pendelhaven:

1: cavern, elixir

1: pendelhaven, glistener elf

2: temple, scourge

2: pendelhaven targeting elf, attack, no blocks (2 poison)

3: warping wail targeting elf, mutagenic growth to counter it

3: pendelhaven elf, attack, block with scourge, mutagenic growth to save elf and kill scourge

4: elixir during upkeep, draw elixir

4: rancor elf now that there's no more mutagenic growths, attack (5 poison)

and either wail or scourge here stops him cold and allows you to win at your leisure.

on the draw, it's the same story with rancor but you'd win at 7 instead of 4 poison, so he tries pendelhaven again:

1: pendelhaven, glistener elf

1: cavern, elixir

2: pendelhaven targeting elf, attack (2 poison)

2: scourge

3: pendelhaven elf, attack, block with scourge, mutagenic growth to save elf

3: wail targeting elf, mutagenic growth to counter it

4: rancor, attack (5 poison)

4: elixir during upkeep, draw elixir

5: attack (8 poison)

and from here it's the same as on the play

6-0

3) arehara - It'Stax Plains / Mana Tithe / Restore Balance / Detention Vortex / Doomed Traveler

balance is strong, but one land was definitely not where you wanted to be this round. between thalia, the inability to counter something and also cast something, or just not being able to double spell, that hurt you a few times. also doomed traveler leaves a lot to be desired as a win con

matches Show

vs azaz Show

as noted in my section, even on your play i kill you before balance can get you there.

0-6

vs cruelshy Show

as noted in his section, there's approximately one million lines but they all end in draws

2-2

vs villhelm Show

cavern stops mana tithe, thalia stops detention vortex, and meddling mage stops restore balance.

0-6

vs formalwhale Show

you're not racing him with doomed traveler so this comes down to whether you can blow up his lands with balance before he locks you out.

on the play:

1: suspend restore balance (6 time counters)

1: hallowed fountain

2: 5 time counters, doomed traveler

2: calciform pools, 1 storage counter

3: 4 time counters

3: 2 storage counters

4: 3 time counters

4: 3 storage counters

5: 2 time counters

5: 4 storage counters

6: 1 time counter

and then from here he can get one of the pieces but not both, so doomed traveler eventually gets there.

on the draw:

1: fountain

1: suspend (6 time counters)

2: pools, 1 storage counter

2: 5 time counters, doomed traveler

3: 2 storage counters

3: 4 time counters

4: 3 storage counters

4: 3 time counters

5: 4 storage counters

5: 2 time counters

6: 5 storage counters

6: 1 time counter

and then the second piece gets countered by mana tithe

6-0

vs mollytov Show

she suspends one crash on turn 1 to outrace doomed traveler, and then one crash to resolve after balance does

0-6

vs meowbear Show

on the play, if you suspend balance on turn 1 she plays seachrome coast and then waits it out, discarding her bounce spell. and if you ever tap out like vs cruel she slams thalia and wins from there.

if you cast doomed traveler instead, she bounces it with void snare and then from there if you ever tap out she casts thalia and wins.

and if you leave mana tithe up she just animates blinkmoth every turn and attacks you to death

0-6

vs manathehour Show

glistener elf goes to jail

6-0

4) villhelm - humans Cavern of Souls / Cavern of Souls / Thalia, Guardian of Thraben / Meddling Mage / Leyline of Sanctity

humans are a standby for a reason i guess! cavern won you some games, and thalia+meddling mage are a power duo. your biggest issue was that you were a bit slow, with no possible first turn plays

matches Show

vs azaz Show

as discussed in my section, your disruption misses me and my creatures are bigger

0-6

vs cruelshy Show

as discussed in his section, a 3/3 from 25 life outraces your 2/2 and 2/1 from 20 life, and you can't trade cause your creatures are what's stopping his recursion

0-6

vs arehara Show

as discussed in his section, your disruption perfectly lines up against his whole deck

6-0

vs formalwhale Show

meddling mage names either unlife or solemnity and then you race from there

6-0

vs mollytov Show

meddling mage is pretty good against a deck running multiples of the same card as its win con, and her disruption doesn't do anything to you

6-0

vs meowbear Show

on the play, meddling mage names thalia, with caverns dealing with mana tithe.

on the draw, it goes like this:

1: seachrome coast

1: cavern

2: thalia

2: meddling mage naming void snare

3: attack with thalia and blinkmoth (17-20)

3: thalia, attack with meddling mage (17-18)

4: attack thalia+blinkmoth (14-18)

4: attack thalia+mage (14-14)

5: attack thalia+blinkmoth (11-14)

5: attack thalia+mage (11-10)

6: attack thalia+blinkmoth (8-10)

6: attack thalia+mage (8-6)

7: attack thalia+blinkmoth (5-6)

7: attack thalia+mage (5-2)

her thalia can stay back to defend but that leaves yours vs her blinkmoth and you also win that race

6-0

vs manathehour Show

on the play:

1: cavern

1: pendelhaven, glistener elf

2: cavern, meddling mage naming mutagenic growth

2: pendelhaven elf, attack (2 poison)

3: thalia

and then from here there's no good attacks for either of you.

on the draw, the same thing happens but he gets to double mutagenic growth you first so you stalemate at 6 poison instead of 2

2-2

5) formalwhale - phyrexia shenanigans Hallowed Fountain / Calciform Pools / Phyrexian Unlife / Solemnity / Darksteel Reactor

unfortunately you were just way too slow, with no disruption to slow opposing decks down. and double unfortunately, solemnity prevents you from adding storage counters or counters to darksteel reactor so in the one match you got to play your prison pieces you still couldn't win

matches Show

vs azaz Show

as discussed in my section, i kill you too quick

0-6

vs cruelshy Show

as discussed in his section, you lock him out but it also stops you from winning

2-2

vs arehara Show

as discussed in his section, even on the play mana tithe prevents you from locking him out before balance blows up one of your lands

0-6

vs vilhelm Show

as discussed in his section, meddling mage stops you cold

0-6

vs mollytov Show

alpine moon stops you from adding any storage counters and then you die to rhinos

0-6

vs meowbear Show

on the play:

1: hallowed fountain

1: seachrome coast

2: calciform pools, 1 storage counter

2: blinkmoth nexus, thalia

3: 2 storage counters

3: attack with thalia + blinkmoth (20-17)

4: 3 storage counters

4: attack with thalia + blinkmoth (20-14)

5: remove 3 storage counters, phyrexian unlife

5: void snare phyrexian unlife, attack thalia alone (20-12)

6: 1 storage counter

6: attack (20-9)

7: 2 storage counters

7: attack (20-6)

8: 3 storage counters

8: attack thalia alone (20-4)

9: 4 storage counters

9: attack thalia alone (20-2)

10: remove 4 storage counters, phyrexian unlife

10: attack (20-negative 1)

11: 1 storage counter

11: attack (-1 life, 3 poison)

12: 2 storage counters

12: attack (-1 life, 6 poison)

13: 3 storage counters

13: attack with just thalia (-1 life, 8 poison)

and then she mana tithes solemnity and gets you to exactly 10 poison

on the draw it's more in her favor

0-6

vs manathehour Show

you get poisoned to death on turn 3

0-6

6) mollytov - elephant moon by john sweeney Copperline Gorge / Chancellor of the Tangle / Crashing Footfalls / Crashing Footfalls / Alpine Moon

rhinos are good! alpine moon did a decent amount of work, but you lost games by being slow, especially when your moon didn't do anything

matches Show

vs azaz Show

as discussed in my section, i kill you too quick and i don't run any lands so alpine moon doesn't do anything

0-6

vs cruelshy Show

as discussed in his section, you're too fast for him on the play, but not on the draw

3-3

vs arehara Show

as discussed in his section, you just split your crashes up to ensure one finishes after a restore balance

6-0

vs vilhelm Show

as discussed in his section, meddling mage wrecks you

0-6

vs formalwhale Show

as discussed in his section, alpine moon locks him out

6-0

vs meowbear Show

on the play Show

1: alpine moon naming blinkmoth nexus, suspend crash (4 time counters)

1: seachrome coast, void snare alpine moon

2: 3 time counters, suspend second crash (4 time counters)

2: thalia

3: 2,3 time counters

3: attack with thalia+blinkmoth (17-20)

4: 1,2 time counters

4: attack (14-20)

5: cast 1 crash of rhinos, pay for thalia, get mana tithed, 1 time counter

5: attack with thalia+blinkmoth (11-20)

6: cast second crash, paying for thalia

6: attack with just blinkmoth (10-20)

7: attack with rhinos (10-12)

7: attack with thalia+blinkmoth (7-12)

8: attack with rhinos (7-4)

you race her from here. if she instead saves snare for a rhino:

3: 2,3 time counters

3: attack with thalia (18-20)

4: 1,2 time counters

4: attack (16-20)

5: cast 1 crash of rhinos, pay for thalia, get mana tithed, 1 time counter

5: attack (14-20)

6: cast second crash, paying for thalia

6: void snare 1 rhino, attack (12-20)

7: attack rhino (12-16)

7: attack thalia (10-16)

8: attack rhino (10-12)

8: attack thalia (8-12)

9: attack rhino (8-8)

9: attack thalia (6-8)

10: attack rhino (6-4)

and you win from here too

on the draw Show

1: seachrome coast

1: alpine moon, suspend crash (4 time counters)

2: thalia

2: 3 time counters, suspend second crash (4 time counters)

3: void snare alpine moon, attack (18-20)

3: 2,3 time counters

4: attack with blinkmoth+thalia (15-20)

4: 1,2 time counters)

5: attack with just thalia (13-20)

5: cast crash, pay for thalia, mana tithe, 1 time counter

6: attack with blinkmoth+thalia (10-20)

6: cast crash, paying for thalia

7: attack with just blinkmoth (9-20)

7: attack with rhinos (9-12)

8: attack with thalia+blinkmoth (6-12)

8: attack with rhinos (6-4)

and again if she bounces a rhino instead:

3: attack with thalia (18-20)

3: 2,3 time counters

4: attack (16-20)

4: 1,2 time counters

5: attack (14-20)

5: cast crash, pay for thalia, mana tithe, 1 time counter

6: attack (12-20)

6: cast crash, paying for thalia

7: void snare rhino

7: attack rhino (12-16)

8: attack thalia (10-16)

8: attack rhino (10-12)

9: attack thalia (8-12)

9: attack rhino (8-8)

10: attack thalia (6-8)

10: attack rhino (6-4)

6-0

vs manathehour Show

you get poisoned with the quickness

0-6

7) meowbear - IRS call Seachrome Coast / Blinkmoth Nexus / Thalia, Guardian of Thraben / Mana Tithe / Void Snare

pretty solid! thalia was a good choice this round, manlands are always good, and void snare worked out great. being unable to keep up your counter while also playing stuff or activating your land was kinda rough however

matches Show

vs azaz Show

as discussed in my section, you bounce one of my leylines and it means that on the play you kill me with blinkmoth, but on the draw you have to hold both back to not die to the crackback

4-1

vs cruelshy Show

as discussed in his section, you get raced by scourge + one or more activations of elixir

0-6

vs arehara Show

as discussed in his section, you can outlast balance or bounce doomed traveler, and if he ever taps out past turn 1 on the play you just slam thalia

6-0

vs vilhelm Show

as discussed in his section, caverns stops mana tithe, and meddling mage + thalia beat thalia + blinkmoth + void snare

0-6

vs formalwhale Show

as discussed in his section, although it's pretty close on the draw, thalia + mana tithe + void snare prevents him from locking you out

6-0

vs mollytov Show

as discussed in her section, regardless of how it pans out you get outraced by rhinos

0-6

vs manathehour Show

thalia prevents him from doing more than one thing a turn but you can't outrace the poison so instead you just sit there doing nothing forever

2-2

8) manathehour - infect Pendelhaven / Glistener Elf / Mutagenic Growth / Mutagenic Growth / Rancor

turn 3 wins will get you there sometimes! unfortunately since you were such a glass cannon, the tiniest bit of disruption stopped you in your tracks, on top of your win turn being 3 instead of the possible 2 with infect

matches Show

vs azaz Show

as discussed in my section, even tho we win on the same turn, i drop you too low to actually use your phyrexian pump spells on your play

0-6

vs cruelshy Show

as discussed in his section, he throws a blocker in your way and then grinds you out with warping wail

0-6

vs arehara Show

as discussed in his section, you lose to detention vortex

0-6

vs vilhelm Show

as discussed in his section, thalia prevents you from winning but all your pump prevents you from losing

2-2

vs formalwhale Show

as discussed in his section, you win on turn 3

6-0

vs mollytov Show

as discussed in her section, you win on turn 3

6-0

vs meowbear Show

as discussed in her section, thalia prevents you from winning but glistener elf + pendelhaven means you don't lose either

2-2

RULES

rules Show

you have a 5 card deck that starts in your hand, you don't lose the game for being unable to draw a card, and your matches are done with perfect play, one game on the play and one on the draw vs each other deck. anything random happens in the way that's least good for you, and if no one can do anything to change the board state the game ends in a draw.

your deck can't be capable of moving a card in your opponent's hand to their graveyard or exile or winning before your opponent's first turn

each win is worth 3 points, and each draw is worth 1 point. winning on the play and losing on the draw, however, is only worth 2 points for the match (as a way to discourage all-in chalice decks and the like)

the card pool is all cards from modern legal sets

the banlist is ghost quarter, chancellor of the annex, laboratory maniac, thassa's oracle, smallpox, vampire hexmage

Date added	3 years
Last updated	3 years
Legality	This deck is not Modern legal.
Cards	0