Clever Impersonator maybe? since this is an agro deck maybe thopter insoul? also 4 of nykthos is horrible cut to 2-3
October 6, 2014 9:45 a.m.
awesomemaxi69, is it Fate Reforged Game Day you won with this list? I see FRF cards, but your comments are 4 months old...
I'm surprised you are not packing Hall of Triumph. In my experience playing a very similar list, Master of Waves would attract all kinds of removal, even massive sweepers cast just to take it out, and the tokens would die without Hall of Triumph... If I cast the Master with no Hall of Triumph it is usually just to stall the board state with chump blockers until I can drop more threats...
Also, you are not packing any removal at all (Reality Shift, AEtherspouts, Polymorphist's Jest) aside of SB Vortex Elemental...
Finally, any specific reason for no fetches? they help Cloudform...
If I'm being so iffy it's because I finished last in my Game day yesterday with my similar list... I guess the deck rewards good play and does not play itself like other archetypes...
February 16, 2015 10:39 a.m.
Id really like to know how this won game day. Either your environment is not competitive at all, or everyone else just sucks. This deck has no punch to it. You have no spot removal. I play abzan aggro, and this would be obliterated by it. I know this is a bad argument, but with no assistance on your board, like Reality Shift to respond to my removal, i don't really see this in a competitive nature.
Btw, i top eighted on fnm and game day, in a competitive environment with 4+ sultai whip decks, 1-3 abzan aggro/midrange decks, and a couple mardu decks. Heck, even a U/W heroic deck.
Deck definitely needs some improvement.
February 16, 2015 12:43 p.m.
Agree with ceji3, as much as I would have like to win with a monoblue deck, I was totally crushed by every other deck in Game Day, and my LGS is not tier-1 competitive by far. I have won from time to time at FNMs, and I know it was not just me playing worse than every other player in the last Game Day... my list, something pretty close to EssTea's Fate Reforged Blue Devotion (competitive) even looked more aggressive than this one...
February 16, 2015 12:57 p.m.
ceji3 the damage for this deck normally adds up by turn 5 or 6, but yea, I don't believe he won a gameday with this, if he did, it's not a competitive shop like he claimed
February 16, 2015 1:10 p.m.
i tested EssTea's frf deck, and liked it.
you apparently versed like 6 "abzen aggro" decks.
the fact you can't spell abzan correct says something.
February 16, 2015 1:27 p.m.
Good job for your win on game day! It's funny how people don't believe you haha.
One of my teammates plays abzan aggro and I know how it plays out as much as my own decks, and what people don't seem to understand is that abzan aggro pains itself like crazy; pain lands, thoughtseize. Valorous stance is dead, abzan charm is dead, all of a sudden they see they're on a clock and pain themselves even more with the charm to draw cards. No bile blight? Lets slam a big value creature that..... Cannot block the flyers... Fuck.
This version of mono blue is very linear, meaning it does not really interact with the other decks. As with most linear decks, if it's let do its thing it's pretty sure to win. However, as with most linear decks, its inability to interact can pose problems, and if its board state is disrupted it's pretty much GG.
So... I can totally see why this deck fared good against abzan aggro since the abzan opponent is left with only Bile blights to interact and the thoughtseizes are aweful against a deck that runs so many redundant 1-2 drops.
Again, good job on your win and don't listen to haters. In the right meta, every deck has its chance of shining. BTW my sidisi whip deck got wrecked 1-3...
February 16, 2015 2:47 p.m.
awesomemaxi69 says... #9
Yeah I won Fate Reforged game day with his list and the store was pretty competitive. You guys just don't understand the power of Thassa and master of Waves. I don't have any removal main board because the deck needs to be as proactive as possible, it can't afford to have any dead cards in the list otherwise it will get stomped by other decks. The list is incredibly tight but it works. As for Hall of Triumph I just don't like spending 3 mana for a thing that is only good if I have creatures out and it only matters for Master of Waves, it is always a dead card for me as I am not trying to win with my 1 and 2 drops buy my big bombs. I have tried Reality Shift and it has always performed poorly, I am always spending my mana and if I spend my turn to downgrade something to a 2/2 then I just lose so bad. Reality Shift is for really fast decks and this deck sin't that fast it is like attrition based kind of. Just once I reality shifted a Zurgo and my opponent flipped a Zurgo to win the game like come on that is bull crap haha.
February 16, 2015 8:25 p.m.
awesomemaxi69, not suggesting by any means you were lying, just like it seems you were very lucky and skilled to win a Game Day with your list. I was close to defeating a very experienced player at my LGS who pilots a competitive Abzan Midrange netdeck (1-1, a draw, in my first round, and I could have won game 2 save for some beginner misplays), so I accept you beat them all. However, I can not figure how you could have won against a RDW. Nearly all my match-ups with RDW were:
Turn1, he lands Swiftspear or Akroan Crusader, I land Shorestalker or Hypnotic Siren.
Turn 2, he casts Hammerhand triggering Heroic and Prowess, precluding my Frost Walker from killing whatever creature of his; I cast Vaporkin or Frost Walker
Turn 3, he casts Rabblemaster or another 1-drop, a Lightning Strike, another Hammerhand or Dragon Mantle, or a Scouring Sands. I cast Thassa, a Hall of Triumph, a CloudForm, or a Monastery Siege.In every ocasion he destroys my creatures or precludes them from blocking, and by turn 3 he is easily pounding with 4+ unblockable damage out of tokens, prowess, pumping auras... Even if he can't stop or kill my evasive creatures and they would eventually run over him, I can't outrace that.
I tried stalling the board, knowing that if I delay the game it is going to be increasingly difficult for a RDW to win, especially if I keep Master of Waves, Hall of Triumph, reach devotion for Thassa, etc etc. But he would cast threats much faster than I would be able to replace my evasive wheenies-turned blockers, and even with Monastery Siege I would fall under range for direct burn finish off...
Sorry for non auto-carding, I have no time to post...
February 19, 2015 10:59 a.m.
awesomemaxi69 says... #11
I didn't verse mono red aggro in the game day since it is a very rare deck where i play but I did have some friendly games with a mono red deck and yes it is diificult. On the draw it i very hard for us to win but it is possible. You need to play master of waves on turn 4 if you want to stand a chance and you need to trade with your creatures when you can. Every deck has a bad match up and you will occasionally verse it but 90% of the time you won't verse that deck. Like blue black control just loses to mono red aggro but that is still a viable deck. Omenspeakers and radiant fountains help but it will be hard. That is why i don't like hall of triumph and monastery siege against aggresive decks, you take a turn off for a very small effect
February 20, 2015 12:17 a.m.
Yeah, fully agree... RDW is not a popular deck at my LGS neither, only one friend piloting it, who, ironically, improved it a lot just before game day, after I made some suggestions after my experience with it from the past summer. Anyway, he was utterly crushed by any other deck on Game Day...
February 20, 2015 3:43 a.m.
Glad to hear you keep doing well with the deck +1!
Can you please post details on those Temur decks you fought against?
February 20, 2015 8:04 p.m.
awesomemaxi69 says... #14
The first temur deck I versed was a big dudes temur deck that had counter spells main board, it is really good against control with main board surrak but was a bit slow. The other temur deck I versed was on the complete other end of the spectrum, it had frost walkers and rabblemasters and flamewake pheonix and was really aggressive, that match up was much more closer.
ScorpioXP says... #1
Mindreaver seems lastluckter caus you have no way of activating his heroic
October 6, 2014 9:39 a.m.