Yes, you are correct, but now you are assuming they have a Supreme Verdict and a swan song every time I have a Boros Charm . We'll see where the testing takes it of course. I am also a control player, and I played Esper, and whatever the new Esper will be will not compare to Innistrad block with all those bombs. Again, it's still early to know what the meta will be like everywhere until the first few large tournaments happen. Also, just the way you're describing Esper control makes it seem like it can beat any creature style deck every time, which is certainly not even close to the case, as I mentioned above I beat Esper 3 matches straight, with the Gruul version of this deck, as don't forget, if they don't draw into a Supreme Verdict by turn 6 they are in a world of trouble, 1 Detention Sphere will only take you so far. As always, any deck can win a match but buddy above thinking new age Esper will crush this is clearly a noob, as I noticed checking out his deck. Which he calls Esper and doesn't run Supreme Verdict , Sphinx's Revelation , or Azorius Charm lol.

You're entitled to your opinion, but please don't insult people for expressing theirs. I honestly do think that you will lose to a well constructed Esper deck 9/10 times, but then again you could be right. Time and play testing will tell. Hope everything goes well :D

@ Itzmogz Take it easy, just "listen" to them and if you see they are rookies or their point of view is the "Perfect vs match", just say "Yeah, could happen" and end of story. For your own, you know that what he is saying will not happen that many times or even won't happen at all.You are the owner, you test it, and you have more exp than him. So.. You are in the lead ;)

Yes I guess I was a little over the edge there. I just don't like as an experienced player having up and comers who think they know way more then they do, have this arrogant attitude, brings out the attitude in me. So I apologize for that. Thanks for understanding guys.

Back to the topic! I didn't realize that Worldspine Wurm will be out when Theros come alive :/So I have to remove it from my deck. I think will repleace them with Nylea, God of the Hunt In my version of the deck, I don't even have removals... I will go ALL IN, BUT if I play vs Esper or some control, will keep some fattys in my hand waiting they play Supreme Verdict and start bringing them to the battlefield till they run out of counters again.I know, it's more risky, but I will make a try and test it that way.

Nop... Worldspine Wurm Won't be out... My mistake..

Worldspine Wurm is from RTR and is still legal when Theros arrives! I just removed it from my deck, might work it back in depending on testing, I have a play set of Garruk, Caller of Beasts and now don't have any in the deck anymore. Not sure if I like it this way or not yet, but I haven't had the chance to test yet.

Seems like a solid deck. My only suggestion would be to throw some Fiendslayer Paladins in the sideboard. That can't be the target of black or red hurts pretty bad.

I do have a set of foil Fiendslayer Paladin , but the issue with that is white is only a splash, and although I do have 10 white sources and 4 Sylvan Caryatid but I'm not sure if I want to risk double white. I will try it in testing though and see if it works! Thanks for the suggestion.

What. The. Fuck... with the name, man? At least you didn't mix "pus" in there... for Green, you know. +1 for gross' sake.

Busse lol thanks bro! I think with the being grossed out you forgot to hit the +1 button :P

Indeed. Couldn't see it because of the vomit... all over the place you know? Hahahah... now that I'm here again... maybe you would want to check one of my decks ;) Cheers!

I really like the inventive name and the awesome deck, you might want to try Scavenging Ooze instead of some of the charms, he combo's with the hydra and is a good mana sink.

What a disgusting name but hey I suppose it fits with the deck being as nasty as it is I have been keeping up on this build over a small period of time you seem to have accumulated a lot of up votes impressive, good stuff man.

I really do like the way that the scry ability goes with Domri Rade that was the first thing I thought of when I seen this ability return in Theros and then also helps you get to the cards you need for whatever match up your in at the moment by somewhat thining out your deck.

TJ1800, while you are correct that he would be helpful, I just think as the unknown meta game stands Boros Charm for board wipes and Selesnya Charm for large threats like Desecration Demon all the Gods, etc. This new upgrade to the deck hasn't been tested yet, so Scavenging Ooze could very well make his way into the deck, I have FNM and a midnight pre-release a few hours away where I'm attending a wedding Saturday so I won't be home to do any testing of this until at least Sunday night and I'll go from there. Thanks for the suggestion! Cheers.

flashter Thanks a lot dude, and yes I have noticed you've been seeing the deck evolve over the last few days! It's come through such a huge change from the first version! I'm hoping in a few days when I get some testing in that this is the build I want to roll with, or at least the shell with some minor tweaks! The mana base is stilll up in the air also, and yes the Temples giving scry definitely has nice synergy with Domri Rade . I'm unsure of how many I want to play though due to the coming in tapped and this being more often then not the aggressive deck. Thanks for keeping up with me, soon enough I'll have some testing results up, more tweaks and fix that damn description lol, it's out of control with the original builds list!! :)

lol no problem I do look forward to how this beast will do so I will stay tuned here hey by the way have you checked out my Selesnya build if not feel free to check it out and +1 if you like it, I believe it is a solid brew that has also been evolving over the past month or two thinking it has almost reached it's final form the way I had it before took 2nd at fnm when I returned to the fnm scene for the second time in a while, which was cool. Thanks enjoy

Haven't even looked at the deck. +1 just for the name

dentalflosstycoon Lol, thanks dude!

Why not use Axebane Guardian in place of Elvish Mystic ? I think it'll get you a better mana ramp you're looking for.

this deck's name and feel is awesome :D

Vince Vaugn: "Guys how are we gonna make $50,000 in 3 weeks?"

Dwight: "We can sell Blood and Semen! :D"

+1 just for the title dude, and maybe think about putting more scry mechanics in the deck? I don't know, but even if you don't the deck looks great.

Hey not so sure but it looks like you might need a little more green and a little less white manna judging by to card cost wheel so in that case I recommend running 4Temple of Abandon and cutting the 2Temple of Triumph just a thought, not 100% how that would work out though.

AJohnson9x I don't have enough mana sinks that I need to slow down the deck for that amount of mana, thanks for the suggestion though!

darkshimbo Thanks dude! Appreciate it.

ItsCole LOL, that's hilarious! Big fan of Vince Vaughn also! More scry could definitely be an idea. What would you propose though?

flashter Hey dude, I've actually had a friend recommend that also, and I'm thinking you might be correct. Still haven't tested enough to be certain though, the reason white is so abundant with few cards is because the times I need to cast Boros Charm and Selesnya Charm I NEED to cast them! Will see how further testing goes of course!

Thanks guys for stopping by and for your suggestions, I'm going to be posting a new non-competitive brew shortly, should be good for a laugh at least highlighting a card not many people will be trying!