I have a deck the is midrange Can't Even Count all the Counters anyone have an idea for some good sideboard for decks like this that are super speed?

Key to the City!! Works well with Lupine Prototype, Inventors Apprentice, and your vampires if you have a Gorger out. Could also give you a reason to play Fiery Temper?

the Bomat Courier plus Otherworldly Outburst synergy is awesome. consider running more of the second and Lathnu Hellions

the Bomat Courier plus Otherworldly Outburst synergy is awesome. consider running more of the second and Lathnu Hellions

jamesnasty thanks! Lathnu Hellion is a 3 drop, and for 3 mana I would rather use Hanweir Garrison as it brings in additional creatures whenever it attacks. I get where you're going with the Lathnu Hellion + Otherworldly Outburst combo, but I really don't have any problems getting creatures killed to use Otherworldly Outburst.

Thanks for the suggestion and for the upvote!

Maybe add a few more damage-to-the-face cards. I've realized that even with some ideal starting hands that this deck starts to fall apart around turn 5/6, by which time your opponent would most likely have some board state. I would suggest Fiery Temper, because it's essentially Lightning Bolt in standard.

Maybe add a few more damage-to-the-face cards. I've realized that even with some ideal starting hands that this deck starts to fall apart around turn 5/6, by which time your opponent would most likely have some board state. I would suggest Fiery Temper, because it's essentially Lightning Bolt in standard.

Riclamin_Silentread, it's not meant to be a deck that goes midrange. The essence of this deck is speed. With that said, by turn 5 or 6 I have activated Lupine Prototype and/or Aethersphere Harvester and have some bigger creatures to utilize. Hanweir Garrison adds some solid offense. Additionally, Otherworldly Outburst and Skin Invasion  ^Flip also help provide additional, larger creatures. Last, Shock is part of the deck.

In my experience, most people see mono-red and think it has to somehow be a burn deck because that what mono-red is thought to be. You're not necessarily saying that, and I get that, but I haven't had problems winning without Fiery Temper. There's not a discard mechanism, so it really isn't Lightning Bolt in this deck. With only 18 mana, that card can be a bit of a pain to get stuck in my hand if I have Lupine Prototype on the field and stuck with a card in hand. I'd rather be casting creatures to overwhelm the field.

If this deck goes to turn 9 or more, it will lose. If the game isn't over on turn 6 or so, there's significant danger of losing. I regularly win on or before turn 6, including defeats of mardu vehicles (good mathup, difficult deck, but beatable with this deck), B/G constrictor and/or energy (though that one is harder), and copy cat (the easiest to beat in this list).

Have you looked into the new spoilers? Consuming Fervor (Enchantment - Aura, R, Enchanted creature gets +3/+3, and gets a -1/-1 counter at the beginning of your upkeep.) and Flameblade Adept (Creature, R, 1/2 Menace, gets +1/+0 for the turn whenever you discard) both look interesting for this deck.

BlaineTog, I have looked at those and I agree that there are interesting possibilities with the new set!

Insolent Neonate. 'Nuff said. Discard mechanism.

Riclamin_Silentread, that's true, but it is the only card with a discard mechanism in a 60 card deck. It doesn't show up often enough to utilize with regularity, and I have to sacrifice it to do it-- in a deck that requires swarming my opponents (i.e., sacrificing creatures is counter-productive in this deck).

4x Insolent Neonate to try to run any number of Fiery Temper means that I won't see my needed discard mechanism with enough reliability to want to include a 3 drop burn card when I already have a 1 drop burn card in Shock. I can get 3x Shock for the same cost and do twice the damage, with the very rare exception of getting an Insolent Neonate out (that I have to sacrifice) to cast Fiery Temper for 1 mana. Not a good trade for this deck, in my opinion.

If it works for you, though, then I say go for it! With this deck, I actually try to empty my hand by the end of turn 4. That seems to go against how most people play, but that means that I have maximally played my cards and can be swinging with a 5/5 on occasion (Lupine Prototype), a 3/5 (Aethersphere Harvester), or a 2/3 with a couple of 1/1 buddies (Hanweir Garrison). For my style of play with this deck, that's preferable for me.

so what do you think about the new Harsh Mentor card from Amonkhet? I just added that to my mono red deck. I think its really good. there are other red cards to consider, not sure if the red god card is any good or not.

Fallerup, ya, I like the card. I'm not yet certain whether I will put it into the deck, but it is a strong candidate. I really like Flameblade Adept for the menace, and Soul-Scar Mage for the prowess. There are good cards for making another good mono-red weenie deck!

I like the red god card, but it's just too slow for my concept of this deck, and it wouldn't fit well with the mana curve. I have trouble even hitting 4 mana sometimes.

I've added some of the new cards to the maybe board already. This will definitely require some tweaking after the full set is released.

Those Bloodrage Brawlers are zesty, in the maybeboard, just a suggestion, run some madness, then use him to activate? Another must have in a red creature deck imo is Hazoret's Monument! Awesome card!

Mightyhulk1, madness is like revolt or delirium-- to be truly effective, the deck needs to have a significant component built around it. I avoid madness and discard as much as possible in this deck, though bloodrage brawler is certainly an exception for a 3/4 for only ! My hand routinely empties by the end of turn 4, so accelerating that isn't in my best interest. (I don't add new cards to the deck until the set is officially released; it's a strange personal preference thing)

Hazoret's Monument is too slow at 3 mana. Once Amonkhet is officially released, Aethersphere Harvester and Lupine Prototype will be removed for other, better options.

Thanks for the suggestions, though!

Mightyhulk1, I was taking a more careful look at my deck with your suggestion of Hazoret's Monument in mind. If I look at the deck carefully, Hazoret's Monument would only help me cast a single card more quickly-- Hanweir Garrison. That's definitely not worth the 3 mana expense. It only alleviates a colorless on a red card, and most of my cards cost a single . Thus, Hazoret's Monument wouldn't actually work at all for me. Not even Bomat Courier would work because it's not a red creature.

Thanks again for the suggestion! This one doesn't work for this particular deck, but keep brainstorming and I'm happy to consider at additional suggestions!

So, AKH candidates so far are Flameblade Adept, Hazoret the Fervent, Soul-Scar Mage, Bloodrage Brawler, and Harsh Mentor? Lupine and Aethersphere are good removes for those. Bold Impaler could also go because what is coming in is better, and Inventor's Apprentice no longer has the strong artifact base and should probably be removed as well. Soul Scar and Blazing Volley are so good together, really crippling. Magma Spray also might be a bit better than Galvanic Bombardment since it can exile the embalm creatures, zommbies, and scrounger.

viperfang4, yes, except for Hazoret the Fervent because it is 4 mana and too slow. I don't think it's a bad card, and it fits the speed theme because my hand would be empty (or close to it) by the time I could cast it, but I would need to up the mana to about 20 to ensure that I could cast it.

I think Flameblade Adept and Bloodrage Brawler (maybe Harsh Mentor?) are the two most likely to make the deck at this point. It'll require a bit of play testing to get the correct combo, though.

Oops, had in mind Hazoret was 3 mana. Also forgot to mention Insult as a nice blowout finisher at least for sideboard maybe.

I suggest sideboarding Magma Spray as an alternative to Shock because it can take out pesky things such as Scrapheap Scrounger. Only sideboard it if you do use it, because Shock has a niceness ability to go face damage.

I feel like Consuming Fervor would be very nice with Skin Invasion  ^Flip and Otherworldly Outburst and more of those could go mainboard.

viperfang4, that's an interesting interaction that I had not considered! Thanks! I'll tinker with that!

Ahn-Crop Crasher? Maybe? I understand that it's a little costly for the deck but it could be a game ender.

Riclamin_Silentread, that's a good card, but I think I get more value out of Bloodrage Brawler, and at the 3 mana spot out of Hanweir Garrison. It'sworth a try, though, as the ability to stop a blocker is pretty good.

Thanks for the suggestion!