Monsters from the Abyss! (Temur Burn/Aggro!)
Standard*
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Jamesfurrow says... #2
It's good just why Hammerhand? Wouldn't you rather Spite of Mogis? As you dump spells into your yard it gets better later in the game. Over all fairly solid just feel your creatures are very prone to wrath like Anger of the Gods maybe as a 2 of include a bomb like Wingmate Roc or Stormbreath Dragon just so your able to combat during the late game a little.
February 18, 2015 8:07 p.m.
JundGrixisNayaBantEsper says... #3
I can see the Spite of Mogis idea but I need a way to get past blockers and not only does Hammerhand says a critter can't block but a creature gets +1/+1 and haste. And that actually saves tons of games for me.
T1 Firedrinker
T2 Swiftspear and Hammerhand and hit for 5 altogether.
T3 Seeker and a Hammerhand on him! Hit for 9 altogether.
Just stuff like that. I see Anger of the Gods and my brother boards it in against me with Temur. I have to side in Valorous Stance against it and hope to save a critter or 2.
February 18, 2015 10:18 p.m.
Jamesfurrow says... #4
Spite does remove blockers and sets up ur next draw. And also consider some flyers. I mean white in fate have your some 1/1 flyers turn 1. It's an idea but it helps vs temur especially since their mostly about trampling rather than flying. You could also use like I suggested earlier sbd or wmr
February 19, 2015 6:33 p.m.
JundGrixisNayaBantEsper says... #5
Yeah but Dragon and Wingmate are sadly too slow. I won't have enough mana to produce 5-drops efficiently. I am considering Jeskai due to Mantis Rider is perfect right now... I would cut Firedrinkers Frenzieds Soldiers and some other weenies for land burn and Riders.
February 20, 2015 4:51 p.m.
Jamesfurrow says... #6
I would replace outburst with Jeskai Charm because it's more versatile for the deck and provides a mean to quicken the match via lifelink, burn, or bouncing. This card does everything you need to have done.
February 20, 2015 7:28 p.m.
JundGrixisNayaBantEsper says... #8
Thanks JakeHarlow and Jamesfurrow! I tweaked it through playtests and Hordeling Outburst is just incredible turn 3. Outpost Siege does win games just off of finishing that last point of damage. Jeskai Charm is pretty versatile but Hordeling Outburst surpasses it by far due to 3x 1/1's. Outpost then deals 3 for a boardwipe. So Jeskai Charm is pretty great and I love the Boros Charm effect but Hordeling Outburst is a lot more aggressive. It's 6-4 when Outburst is w/ Outpost v. just 4 from Charm. Or even a t4 Outburst into a Stoke. Thats 4 damage upfront and 2x +1/+1's from prowess triggers than 1x trigger. Also it fuels 2 cards in the grave when t4 Outburst-Stoke.
February 21, 2015 10:22 a.m.
JundGrixisNayaBantEsper says... #11
First it was Swiftspear vs. Seeker. But so you have any ideas for it? Any ideas that I could take out for the Swiftspears in the main?
February 25, 2015 7:55 p.m.
JundGrixisNayaBantEsper says... #13
It's mainly Mono Red splash Cruise. Thats why I don't run any Islands in the main. I use Temple of Epiphany and Shivan Reef. It isn't really Mono Red but I'm splashing Cruise with it. Basically I'm making the Modern Burn Splash Cruise in Standard.
Any ideas for it?
February 27, 2015 6:21 p.m.
JundGrixisNayaBantEsper says... #14
xGhostx JakeHarlow and Jamesfurrow: What do you think of this list? Any changes or ideas?
February 27, 2015 6:44 p.m.
Jamesfurrow says... #15
Nykthos makes no sence considering the tokens don't count towards devotion (aren't like how Pack Rat worked)
February 27, 2015 8:55 p.m.
JundGrixisNayaBantEsper says... #16
Yeah Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx was just a little extra land to use. I have no extra need for fixing and I thought it would be kind of cool. I am using Swiftwater Cliffs as a 1 of for extra fixing including my 2 in the side for control options with my counters and Keranos, God of Storms.
Any ideas/suggestions for the list? Do you like it?
February 27, 2015 11 p.m.
it think adding white for Jeskai Ascendancy then removeSearing Blood would be good then maybe add Jeskai Charm on the side board.
February 28, 2015 7:45 a.m.
JundGrixisNayaBantEsper says... #18
White was sadly a bit too slow and not mana efficient as U/R. I am going to test this list soon and please give feedback to improve this archetype. After a FNM with U/R I will give it a thumbs up or down. Down to transfer to Jeskai and up to keep this list. What do you guys say?
February 28, 2015 8:44 a.m.
JakeHarlow says... #19
I think that this is fine. Monastery Siege is probably a really powerful addition to your splash. It helps filter out your deck, and your discard helps you immensely with that Crui$e!!
If you're ahead, pick dragons and make it a lot more expensive for opponents to deal with the threats you've got out.
February 28, 2015 7:33 p.m.
JundGrixisNayaBantEsper says... #20
Monastery Siege is a good card! Thanks! I will try it out and start testing!
JundGrixisNayaBantEsper says... #1
Jamesfurrow JakeHarlow xGhostx and arbalest: What do you think of list above?
February 18, 2015 7:36 p.m.