Jdvanliew You can keep both and lose Garruk's Packleader which is one CMC less than Soul but 2/2 less and doesn't have trample. Soul is more bang for the buck.

What's the thoughts on adding certain spells that take care of commanders hitting me and stuff. The following cards are: Vow of Wildness, Lignify, and Song of the Dryads. These spells are great for commander.

I like them but I wouldn't know where to put them

I'd put in Song of the Dryads in place of Lignify. Lignify gives your opponent a blocker, whereas Song clears the way for you to attack if you don't have one of your trampler enablers. Also, it is much harder for your opponent to get rid of one of his lands than it is one of his creatures, meaning that it is likely to stay a tree for a looooong time :) Making someone's commander a tree can effectivey neuter a lot of decks, as they don't have any way of sending it back to the commander zone like they could if it were a creature.

Yes Song of the Dryads is better then Lignify but my LGS didn't have one so I settled for Lignify lol... Thanks though don't forget to upvote if you like what you see.

Dat Comic Sans....

Yes sir

@darleen How did you spot that so easily?

You know there's a lot of overlap with this deck and my Patron deck, you might want to take a look. Elemental Resonance is cool and I hadn't considered that you can use it on opponent's permanents ad I like the universal card draw which also pairs well with all your mana ramp. There's quite a few cards I would cut from your build to get stuff with just a bigger power level or synergy with your commander. Like surely there's better removal for you than Unnatural Aggression? I might copy your deck idea and post my own take on this later if you don't mind. The idea of a big green shrouded commander capable of one-hitting people is too fun of an idea to pass up.

I wanted to ask how often Triumph of the Hordes was effective. I can't really see how it would be any more effective than plain ole general damage and I didn't really see a whole lot of tokens or evasive beaters that it would go well with besides. You might drop it for some card advantage which I think you might be lacking. Harmonize isn't bad. If you were going to put some more token stuff in I'd highly recommend Fecundity because it lets your commander get even more huge. If you have a large enough mana pool, Well of Knowledge could also be fun. Also, did you ever think about Concordant Crossroads or is that too much group hug for one deck (I also think it's expensive)?. I also think that Momentous Fall would be amazing here since you'll have an amazingly beefy commander. Other power-matters cards could also be cool (Fungal Sprouting?). Brawn is something worth considering. Champion of Lambholt might also be effective at getting your big guy through, same thing with Craterhoof Behemoth.

If I'm worried about Boardwipe ruining my day, I usually run Baru, Fist of Krosa. He's really good at "persuading" people to not destroy all their own lands. He's also good here because he can make a lot of creatures for you and your Triumph of the Hordes and token synergy etc. and he can also give trample to your commander which is a big deal.

Anyway, that's enough for now :]

that was meant to be Kamahl, Fist of Krosa.

I really love this deck, drawing isn't used enough in green so well done. just a thought but the trample seems to help you win easily, the only card I would recommend is Thunderfoot Baloth because he does Trample so well and is most likely a game ender.

griffstick I am a graphic designer, I know these things lol.

Greater Good because obviously.

You should considering adding Anvil of Bogardan, so nobody has to discard cards and will ensure that your commander stays huge. Also Rites of Flourishing, because everyone loves you when they draw an extra card AND play an additional land each turn. Cool deck mate, +1.

I see no Heartwood Storyteller.

thanks for the upvotes! thank you all for the help. i will have an answer for all your comments and questions when i'm sober the next day

@NewHorizons you brought up a lot of good points I will try to address them all. First off, Triumph of the Hordes is my personally favorite card I have in my token deck also and your right its more effective in a token deck. You have to consider that in a game with 4 players Multani, Maro-Sorcerer is always big enough to do enough commander damage to some one turn 5 if ramp correctly to make it a 3 player game but after I do that then Multani, Maro-Sorcerer gets 7 points smaller. The one on one game is tricky because Multani, Maro-Sorcerer is useless unless I can draw mass amounts of cards. So instead of relying on Multani, Maro-Sorcerer to win the 1 on 1 part of the game I added big creatures and spells like Triumph of the Hordes as another way to win cause you can't always win with your commander. Also Triumph of the Hordes always works. Unless countered.

Harmonize is a solid card and can be put in here but EDH is a long grindy game so one time use is not good plus it says draw 3 but you play a card to get 3. So it only increases my hand size by 2

Fecundity seems like a great choice and filling my opponents hands up is always good but in this build its more like 40% group hug card draw cards and 60% I draw cards only cards. I don't want to get to friendly or else they might always have the answer for my stuff. @Wooshadoodle, the same thing goes for Anvil of Bogardan, and Rites of Flourishing but with rites I don't want other people mana ramping either. I want to be the only person ramping from lands that why its packed full of land destruction.

Well of Knowledge isn't a force feed so its not a good choice. Concordant Crossroads I considered before and thought that it could backfire on me way to many times. Its Scarry giving you opponents haste. Momentous Fall is great here you are 100% right but I'd rather have Greater Good. I like Fungal Sprouting, that seems like a cool idea. Champion of Lambholt, and Craterhoof Behemoth is not effective enought here without going a token route. Kamahl, Fist of Krosa is a good idea but its not perfect sometimes you see board wipes like In Garruk's Wake, Terminus, and Cyclonic Rift. You also mention Heartwood Storyteller, I lime that one a lot and I keep forgetting to pick one up and it might go in.

If you want to build a copy of this deck then go your own way about building it then by all means go for it. Just make sure i am in there as inspiration.

@JKash89, trample isn't the best way to make my commander leatal but its a good one. I like Thunderfoot Baloth its already in the maybe board I have been fine tuning this for so long that I don't know what to take out for it.

@S733L yes. What do I take out for Greater Good, I like greater good but only if a board wipe is coming or what ever else that seems problematic cause I wouldn't just sac my commander for the cards cause he is the main win condition here. But if he is already on its way then why not get cards for it. Besides every deck needs a sac outlet

I think it really depends on how satisfied you are with your current amount of card draw and ramp. I would probably swap it for the least effective ramp spell (from experience) or Elemental Bond. Alternatively you can swap it in for Unnatural Aggression, since you can't use it with your commander.

Unnatural Aggression has given me problems in the past cause of the shroud thing. Iona, Shield of Emeria is a thing in EDH its in here for that but I guess your right though its my least effective card.

I saw Multani Maro Sorcerer's art and nearly crapped my pants.

lol why

My friend used to wreck me with it + Venser's Journal and draw card spells. I really hated it :)

yea but its 5 cmc. ill do some testing with it