Do you know the "combo" between Give / Take and Chasm Skulker ?! I think that this would be a really nice card to add.

@gioppasup. Oh yeah, that would be pretty neet actually. At this moment I have more and less only used Give, not Take. Also, Chasm Skulker would be an awesome combo with Fathom Mage . I mean, most of the time I use Fathom so that I take ridiculous amount of counters from other creatures and give them to Fathom with Bioshift , now with Chasm Skulker it would resolve even more. I have seen that card many times before but for some reason I didn't think it had a place in this deck. Now I think there could be more than one :D

Thanks!

Primordial Hydra , Doubling Season would be good.

HydraOoze, now that I decided to go modern on this deck those are pretty valid suggestions. Thanks.

With the stupid amounts of mana your Gyre Sages are throwing around in playtesting, I would suggest a mana sink or two, like Soul of Zendikar or Fertilid.

Thanks for suggesting misterbiscuitbarrel. The funny thing is, when I discovered the Leech Bonder + Paradise Mantle combo I changed a lot about this deck and for my own stupidity I for some reason removed all cards that utilizes x mana symbols. I only noticed it now that you mentioned that :D

Soul of Zendikar could be one option but I think there could be some others too.

Also, I'm consistently not having nearly enough mana in playtesting. not sure if it's bad luck or a bad land:spell ratio, but it's happening.

misterbiscuitbarrel, personally I think that the playtest doesn't suffle the card properly. Most of the time it doesn't give any mana or the whole hand is full of it. IRL playtest have given different result and imho with CMC3 decks 20-22 lands is sufficient.

I made some changes now based on your comments though. Added Mistcutter Hydra so that I can utilize all that mana. Also added one more land. Then I remembered Devoted Druid and though it would fit perfectly with Leech Bonder + Paradise Mantle combo. The best part about that is that I don't necessarily need it but with it the combo is even stronger. and it can give me early game mana that can also help with the previously stated situation.

With Leech Bonder and Paradise Mantle, it would be easy to splash black for Corpsejack Menace, letting you infinitely generate +1/+1 counters on all your creatures! A thought.

Nice deck, regardless! +1

thuzra, thanks for suggesting! Though, I could do that same with Hardened Scales or Doubling Season so there is no real reason for adding another color just for one card.

Ah, true, I missed that.

Quillspike to go infinite with Devoted Druid?

poopiepoopiepants1 nah. It's a good card but this deck would suddenly become too much identical with my Oprah's -1/-1 counters.

The main focus in this deck is +1/+1 counters. Oprah is the opposite. I'm actually more likely to take Devoted Druid out because of that reason.

Vigor would be a nice complement to this deck to hose out red burn spells and keep counters stacking up

Why not Misty Rainforest?

poopiepoopiepants1 simply because of budget. Also, really haven't had that much of problem with mana with this deck

Why not Springleaf Drum instead of Paradise Mantle

Instead of Give / Take why not cut down Fathom Mage and Devoted Druid to 2 and replace them with Bioshift and Lorescale Coatl that way you can use Fathom Mage+Bioshift+Lorescale Coatl.

TheLaughingJackal, I used to run 4x Bioshift in this deck but after those big changes there just isn't room for those. Lorescale Coatl could work though. But at that moment when you can really use its power, it kind of is a "win harder" card.

And now that you mentioned it Springleaf Drum does pretty much the same. If only I have noticed that before buying the cards :D

Actually TheLaughingJackal, now that I think about it, Springleaf Drum doesn't work because it doesn't untap with Leech Bonder so you can't use it infinite times.

I like this deck.
But I am really considering to add some Graft-card:
- list Cytoplast Root-Kin helps a lot with Evolve;
- list Plaxcaster Frogling defends from removals.

Experiment One?

or Avatar of the Resolute? :)