Multani, Yavimay's Avatar - The Land is Angry

Commander / EDH sub780lime

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April 21, 2019

A couple updates:

Out: Blighted Woodland, Hydra Broodmaster, Beserk, In: Emerald Medallion, Managorger Hydra, Selvala, Heart of the Wilds

Decided the deck wouldn't hurt to have one more rock and woodlands wasn't enough utility. I see Managorgeras having more value in this deck than Hydra mainly because of trample. I play more 4 player than 1v1 and that adds value in that format. I don't feel I am lacking on mana dumps. I didn't see Berserk adding enough value and I can see Selvala being too good not to run.

bushido_man96 says... #1

Have you considered the inclusion of Temur Sabertooth and possibly Erratic Portal ? What could be more fun than playing Avenger of Zendikar with 10 lands on the battlefield? Bouncing him with the Sabertooth, and doing it again. Multani is also a high CMC Commander, and bouncing (him, her, it?) with the Sabertooth in response to removal can save you some mana when recasting. You're playing lots of utility creatures, and being able to protect them via bounce can't be overstated. Survival of the Fittest is a great card, but does it really fit what you want to do with this deck? Also, Groundskeeper can get some land back out of the graveyard, too.

I like the deck! Looking good!

April 4, 2019 10:56 p.m.

Abaques says... #2

Look at effects like Greater Good . With Multani's easy recur ability and tons of ramp it's a great way to get a lot of cards in your hand.

To be frank I think you've got some cards that are generally strong, but don't really do anything special for your deck. Survival of the Fittest and the Top just sort of seem out of place. I'd also consider cutting some of the mana doubling enchantments. You only have a handful of cards that can really use all that mana you'll be generating.

I'd strongly recommend Basilisk Collar . The deathtouch works great with trample and with Multani's size the lifelink makes the crackback much easier to take. I'd also add Yeva, Nature's Herald and Sword of Vengeance just for the haste.

I have a much more budget Multani deck that's performed well in my meta: What Lurks in the Forest

April 4, 2019 11:59 p.m.

sub780lime says... #3

Thanks, bushido_man96 and Abaques, you are confirming some things I had been thinking about and gave me some additional food for thought.

I had almost dropped Vernal Bloom and Survival of the Fittest in this first pass and hesitated not to include Yeva, Nature's Herald and Greater Good but still did in the end.

I like the suggestion of adding Basilisk Collar , Sword of Vengeance , and Greater Good back in, Abaques. I also see what you mean, bushido_man96, on Temur Sabertooth .

On the topic of Sensei's Divining Top , I'm doing a lot filtering through this decks structure, probably more than is common, but getting cards into hand in mono-green is a tough spot. The top just has value there. Now, I could switch it out for something like Momentous Fall or Soul's Majesty , which I initially considered doing, but I was a bit concerned over worthwhile targets. Soul's Majesty seems like the better option because of the sac requirement for Fall, but I didn't like the increase in mana curve.

Thanks for linking your deck, Abaques. I will definitely take a look!

April 5, 2019 11:33 a.m.

MESS1802 says... #4

One of my favorite cards to use in a land deck is Liege of the Tangle . If you want more fetch, Ulvenwald Hydra seems like a good fit for this deck. Also, since the goal is to get a big commander, Selvala, Heart of the Wilds can provide huge ramp. And Titania, Protector of Argoth can help get more benefit from graveyard interaction with your lands. As for defending yourself, Constant Mists works really well with graveyard land decks. Groundskeeper and Overlaid Terrain are also really good, but the latter can be risky if you’re not prepared when casting it.

April 5, 2019 11:36 a.m.

DrkNinja says... #5

I want to start by saying that I don't like Vernal Bloom, or Mana reflection. They are great cards but in a mono-green lands matter deck, LANDS matter not so much mana. You have a few mana sinks but none of them win you the game (well except maybe Genesis Wave ).

Second I don't know what Powder keg is there for but it's not very good in my opinion, there are a LOT of green cards that kill artifacts, and creatures don't matter because Multani just tramples over them. I helped my wife build a Multani deck, I am Groot!, my best friend an Omnath deck, my own omnath deck, and then my jund omnath deck AKA Lord Windgrace And here... we... go... so I think I have some experience with green lands lol.

Here's a list of cards I suggest!

April 5, 2019 11:39 a.m.

DrkNinja says... #6

Also @bushido_man96 you don't care about the commander tax because you can let her die and put her in your hand and get two lands to do so.

April 5, 2019 11:41 a.m.

sub780lime says... #7

DrkNinja, thanks for the feedback. Your list is pretty much made up cards that were on my maybe list, but for which I didn't end up finding a place. Lightning Greaves is in the list already. I agree on the mana doubling. I plan to dump one of them, if not both. I did have a a question for you - from the list you posted, how would you prioritize the cards. I think I need a spot for Rishkar's Expertise . It's at the top of my list for adds. The others, I am not so sure.

I moved away from land plays from the graveyard. I kept a couple ways to do it, but since I didn't necessarily need the mechanic to accomplish anything specific and Multani doesn't care of they are there, I pulled Crucible of Worlds and didn't see enough value in Titania, Protector of Argoth , but I am curious if there is more of a case for land recursion enough to dedicate more spots too it.

April 5, 2019 1:23 p.m.

sub780lime says... #8

MESS1802, thanks for the feedback. Constant Mists and Selvala, Heart of the Wilds are both cards I hand't considered that likely deserve a place. I definitely need suggestions on what to remove.

April 5, 2019 1:26 p.m.

MESS1802 says... #9

sub780lime, personally I don’t care much for cards like Llanowar Elves and Elvish Mystic . Selvala, Heart of the Wilds could definitely replace one of those. But if you want a cool combo with that, keep one of those two to pair with Selvala for her ability, and with your Paradox Engine , you could cast a lot of spells and probably have a decent amount of mana left over, which you can always use on the Ant Queen . Undergrowth Champion is a good card, but it seems kind of extra here. Same for Nevinyrral's Disk and Sensei's Divining Top . I’d add a Crucible of Worlds in its place. Also, I think you have enough land search that you don’t necessarily need lands like Misty Rainforest . And as someone else stated, Rishkar's Expertise would also be here. But it’s ultimately your call, this is just what I’d do.

April 5, 2019 2:17 p.m.

DrkNinja says... #10

@sub780lime that's my wife's deck, honestly if I had full reign over it it'd be 20x more streamlined so...

I didn't realize you had greaves just saw swiftfoot boots so and blanked out.

Prioritize which cards?

Rishkar's is AMAZING!

I understand why, right but here's my thing sure Multani doesn't care where they are BUT your Baloths, Titania, Avenger, Courser, tracker, champion, and if you play Seer's Sundial (which you totall should) care about those lands entering the battlefield. It's a LOT easier to sac them and play them from grave than to return them to hand. Which is why I value that so much. I think you definitely have the card slots to support it, your running a few lackluster cards.

Also I'm not a fan of Selvala... at least not in this deck. It gives your opponents too much of an opportunity to draw cards/answers and leaving you with only one draw off it. Sure her second ability is great, but you tutor up half your lands in a few turns anyways why do you need MORE mana?

Which leads me to Elemental Bond , if you add titania I think you get a lot of triggers and a great draw engine off this card.

April 5, 2019 3:25 p.m.

sub780lime says... #11

MESS1802, I hear you on Llanowar Elves and Elvish Mystic . It's so hard to pull all creature based ramp out of a green deck, but I know what you are saying and it very well might be the right move here. Really need to think about that one.

I almost pulled Paradox Engine as I wasn't just quite convinced it really did enough in the deck. It's one of those cards that's great in 99% of decks. Is this the 1%, I haven't made that call yet and initially decided it still belonged. Needs play testing, me thinks.

The thing I liked about the fetches is their possible recursion works really well with Multani. Fetch, goes to graveyard, play from graveyard, fetch again and also benefit from accessible landfall triggers. At least that was one of my thoughts, though I already expressed how I didn't want to go all in on the land recursion them, lol.

April 5, 2019 3:44 p.m.

sub780lime says... #12

Oh, [[]], I also had Liege of the Tangle on my maybe list, but essentially dropped it for mana curve.

April 5, 2019 3:49 p.m.

sub780lime says... #13

Thanks, DrkNinja. That definitely provides me some great direction to go off of. Elemental Bond was another maybe card I'll need to revisit.

April 5, 2019 3:54 p.m.

DrkNinja says... #14

Also FUCK Liege of the Tangle... I have PTSD with that card... Played it turned all my lands into dudes and then was immediately met with a Blasphemous Act ugh...

April 5, 2019 4:34 p.m.

sub780lime says... #15

DrkNinja, when I was going with a living land theme, I had it in there, but I also had ways to recur all those lands or protect them. When I shifted the deck to Multani, there is just too much involved in protecting it, especially with the turn delay built-in to the card.

April 5, 2019 5:04 p.m.

MESS1802 says... #16

If you want recurring fetching using lands, use Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse . They’re much cheaper and do nearly the same thing. But if you’ve already bought them, then go for it, they’re good land fetchers. Also, since you do have a lot of fetching lands straight to the battlefield, an Amulet of Vigor would work really nicely.

April 5, 2019 5:52 p.m.

DrkNinja says... #17

@MESS1802 the dual color fetches are better because the lands come into play untapped. So while they may be expensive, they thin the deck out and give you mana immediately

April 5, 2019 6:10 p.m.

sub780lime says... #18

I own everything included, so not a problem on having the cards available. I pruned Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse from my over land because I felt I had enough fetching means going on, but it wouldn't be beyond reason to consider those in place of sorcery-based fetching from the perspective of recurring them from the graveyard and being able to repeat the fetch process. It's something I could consider.

Alright, the deck has been updated. Here's what's out: Vernal Bloom , Survival of the Fittest , Sensei's Divining Top , Powder Keg , Mana Reflection , Llanowar Elves , and Elvish Mystic .

Here's what went in: Crucible of Worlds , Titania, Protector of Argoth , Sword of Vengeance , City of Solitude , Rishkar's Expertise , Greater Good , and Elemental Bond

April 5, 2019 9:16 p.m.

sub780lime says... #19

Typo above. Correction: '...from my overall land because I felt..."

April 5, 2019 9:19 p.m.

bushido_man96 says... #20

@DrkNinja, yes, true, unless it gets Lignify ed, or Imprisoned in the Moon , or targeted with Song of the Dryads , or otherwise getting exiled and you don't want it to go the Command Zone....

April 5, 2019 11:15 p.m.